Thank you Howard,
As I wrote earlier,
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" without evidence so is a contrary view that a live animal was
suddenly discovered adopting this pose........ We're surely all not
unaware of set-ups these days - often for the 'entertainment'
industry."
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As you say, a lot of trouble to go to, but then so are many set-ups....
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As I also wrote earlier
-" Personally I think the my presumption is by far the most likely."
- Interestingly, having delved further into the site, I see many
comments left on it also reflect this sceptical view - 'though, of
course, this is not evidence either way............
MH
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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: lute list <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2015, 18:32
Subject: [LUTE] Re: green lute like instrument
How flattering that my name has been invoked as highly unofficial
fact-finder.
Obviously, the only "evidence" is the photographer's statement that he
did exactly what wildlife photographers typically do: find a subject
and wait for it to do something interesting. You can disbelieve it if
you like, but unless you know far more about the habits of dragon
lizards than I do, you have no basis for your opinion, other than an
assumption that the photographer killed two lizards and posed them,
which seems like a lot of trouble, requiring considerable taxidermical
skill; the posture in the second picture seems like it would be really
hard to achieve with a dead lizard. But what do I know?
The leaf-lute shot looks like a curious basking behavior. Maybe the
lizard likes to warm its leaves.
---- Martyn Hodgson <[1][email protected]> wrote:
> Well, the presumption or, as you prefer, conjecture (that it may
be a
> posed dead animal) might be not to your liking and be unacceptable
to
> you. But without evidence so is a contrary view that a live animal
was
> suddenly discovered adopting this pose........ We're surely all
not
> unaware of set-ups these days - often for the 'entertainment'
industry.
> Personally I think the my presumption is by far the most likely.
> MH
>
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>
> From: "[2][email protected]" <[3][email protected]>
> To: Martyn Hodgson <[4][email protected]>;
"[5][email protected]"
> <[6][email protected]>; John Mardinly
<[7][email protected]>
> Cc: Dan Winheld <[8][email protected]>; Ed Durbrow
> <[9][email protected]>; lute list
<[10][email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2015, 14:03
> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: green lute like instrument
> That is unacceptable conjecture, in absence of any evidence, as
will
> surely be demonstrated by our own Howard Posner.
> RT
> On 3/5/2015 8:46 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
>
> Well, I presume the photographer posed an animal which was already
> found dead so I suppose it might appeal to some - but if he/she
killed
> it for the sake of a pic then perhaps it's no so funny....
> MH
>
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>
> From: [1]"[11][email protected]" [2]<[12][email protected]>
> To: [3]"[13][email protected]" [4]<[14][email protected]>;
John
> Mardinly [5]<[15][email protected]>
> Cc: Dan Winheld [6]<[16][email protected]>; Ed Durbrow
> [7]<[17][email protected]>; lute list
[8]<[18][email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2015, 13:09
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: green lute like instrument
> Well, the overwhelming majority on this list has a sense of humor!
> As Brazilians say: Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!
> RT
> On 3/5/2015 7:14 AM, [9][19][email protected] wrote:
> > Horrible photo, what a shame, poor animal, why post something
like
> this? Where is there any fun? How is it related to the LUTE? Think
> about it and refrain in the future.
> > Ernesto Ett
> > 11-99 242120 4
> > 11-28376692
> >
> >
> >
> > Em 04.03.2015, A (s) 16:32, John Mardinly
<[10][20][email protected]>
> escreveu:
> >
> > And nails, not flesh....OK, claws?
> >
> > A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
> > Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer
> > EMail: [11][21][email protected]
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [12][22][email protected]
> [mailto:[13][23][email protected]] On Behalf Of John
Mardinly
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 12:14 PM
> > To: Dan Winheld; Ed Durbrow; lute list
> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: green lute like instrument
> >
> > Fan bracing as well!
> >
> > A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
> > Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer
> > EMail: [14][24][email protected]
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University PO
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [15][25][email protected]
> [mailto:[16][26][email protected]] On Behalf Of Dan
Winheld
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 10:09 AM
> > To: Ed Durbrow; lute list
> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: green lute like instrument
> >
> > Green thumb out!
> >
> > On 3/3/2015 12:52 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote:
> >>
>
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tya-
> per
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> >> [19][29]https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow
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