Thanks William, very interesting and I like your suggestion to cajole a
student into doing the donkey work - would I could find someone so
gullible!
Martyn
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf
of William Brohinsky <[email protected]>
Sent: 04 October 2016 17:08
To: Lute NET
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Creating a short score from pdf full score
I think, Martin, you might find it difficult to find software which
can
follow any score at random, choosing the proper parts out page after
page, to combine into a different document. In fact, I think that
most
people in the world couldn't successfully do this, because the
people
who typeset scores aren't doing anything to make it easier for a
machine to extract and recombine parts.
You describe the problem well:
"a 165 page full score with
up to 30 independent parts/lines to cut and paste into a short
score
of
just four principal lines would seem to take a long time to
achieve
â"
Between different movements and different textures, combined with
the
publisher's desire to reduce useless all-rest lines and format the
result meaningfully to a conductor or student/studier and the
possibilities of ossiae, editorial marks, etc, within a single
score,
and the software creator's desire to have a program which isn't
limited
to converting only one publisher's output (or, for that matter, one
single score!) it is very difficult to create a
one-program-does-all-the-thinking approach.
By offloading the selection of which lines to be kept and decoding
which parts are in each system, and the other things you describe, a
program which has a chance of succeeding with many publisher's
output
and many different score layouts, editorial additions and insertions
and alternates, fonts and system markings is possible.
It might be that an AI-controlled program trained to understand
these
things as we do will become available in another decade or three,
but
it is hard to say that it would be more effective than a monkey with
a
razer blade and a pot of glue. And it probably won't get the job
done
in time for your project.
What you need is to infuse a graduate student or a young teen with
the
desire to prove how great [1]partifi.org is, and to snooker them
into
proving it with your score.
â
On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 3:57 AM, Martyn Hodgson
<[2][email protected]> wrote:
Dear David and Bruno,
Many thanks for this.
I've looked at Partifi now: it seems mostly to have been
designed
to
produce individual parts from a full score although there does
seem to
be the facility to combine some. But the need to have to label
every
line and specify a part on every single page might make the
whole
thing
a bit labourious for what I wish to do. eg a 165 page full
score
with
up to 30 independent parts/lines to cut and paste into a short
score of
just four principal lines would seem to take a long time to
achieve -
unless I've missed some easier facility within Partifi.
But many thanks
Martyn
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From: David van Ooijen <[3][email protected]>
To: MJ Hodgson <[4][email protected]>
Cc: Lute NET <[5][email protected]>
Sent: Monday, 3 October 2016, 15:18
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Creating a short score from pdf full score
My mistake. Here's the correct link
[1][1][6]http://partifi.org/
David
On Monday, 3 October 2016, David van Ooijen
<[2][2][7][email protected]> wrote:
Partify com or org, don't know).
On Monday, 3 October 2016, MJ Hodgson
<[1][3][3][8][email protected]>
wrote:
I'd be grateful for advice on the best (free)
software
for
creating a
new short score from an existing pdf full score.
What I
mean is
being
able to copy two or three principal lines and the
bass
onto
a new
pdf page of, say, a 30 part mass which already
exists as
a pdf
.
I presume there's some where one can scroll over a
line,
copy it
and
paste onto a new pdf and so, by digitally cutting and
pasting,
create a
new short score more useful to a theorbo player who
finds
dealing
with
page turns every few bars not really practicable
(unlike
keyboard
where
the right hand can turn).
MH
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