[LUTE] Re: Creating a short score from pdf full score

[William Brohinsky]

   Sidenote: On Windows, the free GIRDAC system does a wonderful job of
   turning anything you can print into a PDF file.
   [1]http://www.girdac.com/
   They have converters you can pay for with more features, but the
   straight-on converter acts like a printer, and allows you to edit Meta
   information before saving.
   ray

   On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 6:40 AM, Martyn Hodgson
   <[2]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:

        David,
        I can, of course, and indeed usually do use just a figured bass
     in many
        works but, as said earlier, for some very large pieces I ideally
     like
        to have at least a couple of the principal upper lines as well
     (not of
        course always the same lines throughout the work) especially if
     the
        work has a number of choirs (eg Biber's Missa Salisburgensis).
     Keyboard
        continuo players can, and generally do, naturally use a fill
     score and
        turn with their right hand - theorbo players can't. Hence the
     issue.
        Martyn
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        From: David van Ooijen <[3]davidvanooi...@gmail.com>
        To:
        Cc: "[4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
        Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016, 10:01
        Subject: [LUTE] Re: Creating a short score from pdf full score
          If it's Biber, get the cello/bass part and figure it.
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          David van Ooijen
          [1][1][6]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
          [2][7]www.davidvanooijen.nl
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          On 6 October 2016 at 10:52, MJ Hodgson
        <[3][2][8]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk>
          wrote:
                Thanks to all for thheir kind help. It seems there is no
     easy
            answer
                but that MUSESCORE2 might be suitable - but only if the
        original
            was
                created digitally in the first place - also other issues.
     Some
        of
            the
                scores I'm looking at currently are the Biber mass
     settings in
            the old
                (but still quite good) editions in the series [1]DenkmÃ
     ¤ler
        der
            Tonkunst
                in Ãsterreich
                I guess from what is being said that these wouldn't work
     with
            MUSESCORE
                - but I'll certainly give it a whirl!
                Many thanks
                Martyn
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                From: AJN <[4][3][9]arthurjn...@verizon.net>
                Sent: 05 October 2016 19:15
                To: [5][4][10]r...@mh-freiburg.de;
     [6][5][11]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
                Cc: [7][6][12]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk;
     [8][7][13]bruno.l...@gmail.com;
                [9][8][14]tiorbin...@gmail.com;
     [10][9][15]davidvanooi...@gmail.com;
            [11][10][16]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu;
                [12][11][17]arthurjn...@verizon.net
                Subject: Re: Re: Re: Creating a short score from pdf full
     score
                I think it was MuseScore that the Italian publisher used
     from
        my
            *.PDF
                input file.   It worked very well.   And was probably
     very easy.
                On 10/05/16, Ralf Mattes<[2][13][12][18]rm@mh-
     freiburg.de> wrote:
                Am Mittwoch, 05. Oktober 2016 16:54 CEST, Martyn Hodgson
                <[3][14][13][19]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> schrieb:

              > Thank you Arthur.
              > In fact chatting to an IT person earlier today they
   suggested
          GIMP
              > which seems to be much used for art work etc but they
   thought
          might
              > also be useful to move blocks of musical systems around.
   I've
              > downloaded it (it's free!) but the operation of the
   software
          isn't
              > obvious so I'll have to find precious time to understand
   it -
          unless
              my
              > son (now a Seattle resident) can explain it all to me when
   I
          next
              chat
              > with him...
              Please, don't use Gimp. It's a marvelous program, but not
   meant
          for
              that kind
              of job (and your "IT-person" should know ...) Gimp works on
          raster
              images
              only and will convert a pdf to a (set of) raster images. At
      that
          point
              you work with
              pixel data which will most likely look rather disapointing
   when
          printed
              at
              a different resolution.
              > Incidentally, Finale does have a free 'Notepad' version
   but
          this
              seems
              > very limited and unable (I think) to do the sort of cut
   and
          paste I
              had
              > in mind.
              Before you investigate further in Finale (a piece of crap
   IMHO)
          you
              might
              want to have a look at MuseScore

        ([4][15][14][20]https://musescore.org) -

          that'll
              probably
              give you more than you ever need, and the latest versions
   have
          pretty
              good
              support for lute tab.
              > Previously I've simply run off a photocopy and by using
   some
              > large paper shears and glue made a physical paste up - but
      the
          160+
              > pages of the mass rather put me off this traditional
      technique
          -
              hence
              > the search for a digital alternative.
              The digital version of that would be to import our pdf into
   a
          vector
              drawing
              program (Adobe Illustrator, Inkscape etc.) but the quality
   of
          that
              import
              depends on the program that generated the pdf.
              Unfortunately, the only convincing path to solve your
   problem
      is
          to use
              the
              same program as the original typesetter (if you can get the
          original
              digital version,
              NO the pdf). Otherwise, a good pair of scissors IS an
          astonishingly
              effective tool :-)
              Cheers, Ralf Mattes
              > regards
              > Martyn
              >
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