David,
I can, of course, and indeed usually do use just a figured bass in many
works but, as said earlier, for some very large pieces I ideally like
to have at least a couple of the principal upper lines as well (not of
course always the same lines throughout the work) especially if the
work has a number of choirs (eg Biber's Missa Salisburgensis). Keyboard
continuo players can, and generally do, naturally use a fill score and
turn with their right hand - theorbo players can't. Hence the issue.
Martyn
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From: David van Ooijen <[email protected]>
To:
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016, 10:01
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Creating a short score from pdf full score
If it's Biber, get the cello/bass part and figure it.
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David van Ooijen
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On 6 October 2016 at 10:52, MJ Hodgson
<[3][2][email protected]>
wrote:
Thanks to all for thheir kind help. It seems there is no easy
answer
but that MUSESCORE2 might be suitable - but only if the
original
was
created digitally in the first place - also other issues. Some
of
the
scores I'm looking at currently are the Biber mass settings in
the old
(but still quite good) editions in the series [1]Denkmà ¤ler
der
Tonkunst
in Ãsterreich
I guess from what is being said that these wouldn't work with
MUSESCORE
- but I'll certainly give it a whirl!
Many thanks
Martyn
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From: AJN <[4][3][email protected]>
Sent: 05 October 2016 19:15
To: [5][4][email protected]; [6][5][email protected]
Cc: [7][6][email protected]; [8][7][email protected];
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Creating a short score from pdf full score
I think it was MuseScore that the Italian publisher used from
my
*.PDF
input file. It worked very well. And was probably very easy.
On 10/05/16, Ralf Mattes<[2][13][12][email protected]> wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 05. Oktober 2016 16:54 CEST, Martyn Hodgson
<[3][14][13][email protected]> schrieb:
> Thank you Arthur.
> In fact chatting to an IT person earlier today they suggested
GIMP
> which seems to be much used for art work etc but they thought
might
> also be useful to move blocks of musical systems around. I've
> downloaded it (it's free!) but the operation of the software
isn't
> obvious so I'll have to find precious time to understand it -
unless
my
> son (now a Seattle resident) can explain it all to me when I
next
chat
> with him...
Please, don't use Gimp. It's a marvelous program, but not meant
for
that kind
of job (and your "IT-person" should know ...) Gimp works on
raster
images
only and will convert a pdf to a (set of) raster images. At
that
point
you work with
pixel data which will most likely look rather disapointing when
printed
at
a different resolution.
> Incidentally, Finale does have a free 'Notepad' version but
this
seems
> very limited and unable (I think) to do the sort of cut and
paste I
had
> in mind.
Before you investigate further in Finale (a piece of crap IMHO)
you
might
want to have a look at MuseScore
([4][15][14]https://musescore.org) -
that'll
probably
give you more than you ever need, and the latest versions have
pretty
good
support for lute tab.
> Previously I've simply run off a photocopy and by using some
> large paper shears and glue made a physical paste up - but
the
160+
> pages of the mass rather put me off this traditional
technique
-
hence
> the search for a digital alternative.
The digital version of that would be to import our pdf into a
vector
drawing
program (Adobe Illustrator, Inkscape etc.) but the quality of
that
import
depends on the program that generated the pdf.
Unfortunately, the only convincing path to solve your problem
is
to use
the
same program as the original typesetter (if you can get the
original
digital version,
NO the pdf). Otherwise, a good pair of scissors IS an
astonishingly
effective tool :-)
Cheers, Ralf Mattes
> regards
> Martyn
>
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