Mumin-chan
Wakata. I think Eliza will be pronounced in English, regardless of the
singer's hipness
David.
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David van Ooijen
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[2]www.davidvanooijen.nl
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On 24 April 2017 at 12:44, Mumin Lute
<[3]lutenist.mumin.ko...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear David san
I didn't think of HIP, but am glad that the topic moved on to it
and to
know the latest perspective of experts' ... :-) I know Robert
Spencer's
opinion on singing early modern English which I am not trying to
question at the moment.
I should have asked 'received pronunciation' (?) of Laten in
Anglican
church of today..
I am not sure about "Eliza" in latin. "Vivat" is to be
pronounced like
vee-vat as far as I know... ( other Latin phrases appear in the
song
didn't sound that English-like in the Rooley's recording.)
Tomoko
2017/04/24 0:48 "David van Ooijen"
<[1][4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com>:
HIP 2.0 (?!)
Wa chotto hen desu, yo!
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David van Ooijen
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[2][3][6]www.davidvanooijen.nl
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On 23 April 2017 at 17:44, Jerzy Zak
<[3][4][7]jurek...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear Tomoko,
Try GoogleTranslate. Put your fraze in the space on the
left,
choose
a language you think it is in, and press the little
speaker
underneath. Then keep changing languages until you think
it
rhymes
best with à ¢Ave MarÃa'. Stupid but works ;)
Jerzy
à ¢
> On 23 Apr 2017, at 17:02, lutenist.mumin.koide gmail
<[4][5][8]lutenist.mumin.ko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear lute-list,
>
> Could anyone help me clarify pronunciation of "Vivat
Eliza"
in
Dowland's composition
> to Sir. Henry Lee's poem "Time's Eldest Son"?
>
> I thought it could be " viÃvà ¦t ("Vivat" read in
ecclesiastical
Latin?) and " ÃiÃzÃ" (with this pronunciation it rhymes
with
"Ave
Maria" ) though many sang it " vaà ªvà ¦t Ãlà ¬à ªzÃ"
for
which
I
couldn't find any reason...
>
> Tomoko
>
>
>
>
>
> To get on or off this list see list information at
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2. [8][11]http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
3. mailto:[9][12]jurek...@gmail.com
4. mailto:[10][13]lutenist.mumin.ko...@gmail.com
5. [11][14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.
edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
2017/04/24 0:48 "David van Ooijen"
<[12][15]davidvanooi...@gmail.com>:
HIP 2.0 (?!)
Wa chotto hen desu, yo!
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David van Ooijen
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[2][14][17]www.davidvanooijen.nl
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On 23 April 2017 at 17:44, Jerzy Zak
<[3][15][18]jurek...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear Tomoko,
Try GoogleTranslate. Put your fraze in the space on the
left,
choose
a language you think it is in, and press the little speaker
underneath. Then keep changing languages until you think it
rhymes
best with à ¢Ave MarÃa'. Stupid but works ;)
Jerzy
à ¢
> On 23 Apr 2017, at 17:02, lutenist.mumin.koide gmail
<[4][16][19]lutenist.mumin.ko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear lute-list,
>
> Could anyone help me clarify pronunciation of "Vivat
Eliza" in
Dowland's composition
> to Sir. Henry Lee's poem "Time's Eldest Son"?
>
> I thought it could be " viÃvà ¦t ("Vivat" read in
ecclesiastical
Latin?) and " ÃiÃzÃ" (with this pronunciation it rhymes
with
"Ave
Maria" ) though many sang it " vaà ªvà ¦t Ãlà ¬à ªzÃ"
for
which
I
couldn't find any reason...
>
> Tomoko
>
>
>
>
>
> To get on or off this list see list information at
> [5][17][20]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/
index.html
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