Thank you. I was interested in the matter because surely Gumprecht must have had some input for the Rostock French 17th-century lute manuscript with 400 (!!) pieces. It is copied on paper manufactured in Urach (40km south of Stuttgart--there was a duchal residence there), and not someplace in northern Germany a previously thought given the several northern lutenists represented. Arthur Ness [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Mathias Rösel <[email protected]> To: lute <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, May 27, 2017 3:28 pm Subject: [LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature And as for your precise question, whether or not Gumprecht may have been teacher to Louise's father, Frederick Louis, that seems very likely IMO. Gumprecht was 48 at Frederick's birth, and when Gumprecht died, Frederick was 16 or 17. Mathias -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: lute-[1][email protected] [[2]mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Mathias Rösel Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Mai 2017 21:02 An: [3][email protected] Betreff: [LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature Dear Arthur, That is interesting! Thanks for that. In 1681, father and son Gumprecht wrote a letter to the council of Stasburg, requesting that Jean Bethune, who was about to settle in Strasburg as an angélique teacher, be repelled from town. They seem to have been successful, as nothing is heard of Bethune afterwards. That very Bethune was the teacher of Marguerite Monin (whose lute book of 1664 in preserved in Paris) and of that student who penned down the angélique book that has been reproduced and published in facsimile by Minkoff as the only angélique tablature so far (F-Pn Rés. 169, manuscript Béthune). (Source: [4]http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/Instrumente/Angelique/Angelique.htm l) Obviously, they considered Jean Bethune a rival to Gumprecht the younger in matters of the angélique. Gumprecht's appointment in Stuttgart as a teacher as from 1688 may have been a delayed result of the untimely death of William Louis of Württemberg (â 1677). William's widow had been appointed regent and custodian to her four children: Eleonore Dorothea (died in 1683 at the young age of nine), Eberhardine Luise (1675â1707), Eberhard Ludwig (1676â1733), and Magdalena Wilhelmine (1677â1742). At Gumprecht's arrival, Eberhardine was 13, Eberhard was 12, and Magdalena was 11 years old. Gumprecht and Eberhard weren't allowed more than five years, as Eberhard was declared politically mature at age 16 by the emperor in 1693. Eberhard became father to Frederick Louis in 1698, crown prince of Württemberg (who never became duke, as he died before his father in 1731). Frederick in 1716 married Henrietta Maria of Brandenburg-Schwedt, with whom he had two children: Eberhard Friedrich (1718â1719) and Louise Frederica (1722â1791). Louise Frederica of Württemberg was granddaughter to Gumprecht's student Eberhard of Württemberg. She was 11 years old when her grandfather died. Later she married Frederick II Duke of Mecklenburg-Schwerin and brought her lute books to Mecklenburg. So, if Gumprecht left Stuttgart in 1715, he never came to see and teach Louise of Württemberg whose lute books we can study today. Mathias -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: lute-[5][email protected] [[6]mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Arthur Ness Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Mai 2017 15:37 An: [email protected]; [7][email protected] Betreff: [LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature Dear Mathias, Thank you for sending the *.PDF tablature with the midi audio. Incidentally Johann Gumprecht, d. J., (b. 1645) served in Stuttgart 1688-1715 as "FÃÃà ¼rstliche Kammer- und Tutelar-Rat fÃÃà ¼r die musikalische Erziehung der herzoglichen Kinder" [Sittard, p. 65]. He played at the usual functions (at Mass, at dinner, instructing the children and pages, etc.), but was especially admired for playing the AngÃÃà ¨lique. He brought with him the French Lautenkunst as practiced in Strasbourg. Did he teach Princess Luisse's father? Arthur Ness [8][email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Mathias RÃÃà ¶sel <[email protected]> To: 'Lute net' <[9][email protected]> Sent: Sat, May 27, 2017 6:31 am Subject: [LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature Hi Alain, the angÃÃà ©lique is strung with 16 single strings. Ten are on the fretboard and six are bourdons. The pitches are as follows: 1st = e5 2nd = d5 3rd = c5 <<<SNIP>>> Mathias -----UrsprÃÃà ¼ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Alain Veylit [[1][10]mailto:[email protected]] Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Mai 2017 09:29 An: Mathias RÃÃà ¶sel Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature Hi Mathias, Sounds feasible - but my German is rusty ... what was the tuning of the angelique and what is the meaning of the underlined a and /////a? I would have jumped to the conclusion that ////a was equivalent to a "4" Alain On 05/26/2017 02:56 PM, Mathias RÃÃà ¶sel wrote: > Organ tablature was in use for any instrument and even for singers, as it is a pitch notation. > > It may be much easier to expand lute tablature to the much desired > tablature for the angÃÃà ©lique (see > [2][11]http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/Instrumente/Angelique/Angelique .htm l > > Notation der BasschÃÃà ¶re), for which not more than two additional > characters are required: _a_ (underlined) and /////a > > Mathias -- References 1. [12]mailto:[email protected]? 2. [13]http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/Instrumente/Angelique/Angelique.ht ml To get on or off this list see list information at [14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
-- References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected]? 3. mailto:[email protected] 4. http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/Instrumente/Angelique/Angelique.html 5. mailto:[email protected] 6. mailto:[email protected]? 7. mailto:[email protected] 8. mailto:[email protected] 9. mailto:[email protected] 10. mailto:[email protected]? 11. http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/Instrumente/Angelique/Angelique.htm 12. mailto:[email protected]? 13. http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/Instrumente/Angelique/Angelique.html 14. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
