Dear Steven,
I think that probably always the width between the 1st and 13th string
is meant. In the list of the Hoffmann book they also give the width of
the whole bridge and specify the string width.
e.g. for MH9 (13c) string width is given as 139mm and bridge width as
193mm for the whole bridge and 153mm for the inner width (without the
outer endings).
Best regards
Markus
Am 07.10.2017 um 13:44 schrieb Steven Farrelly-Jackson:
Dear Markus,
With reference to your list of historic bridges, are the measurements
given of the whole top of the bridge itself, or just of the width
between the 1st and 13th courses? Everyone in the email string has just
made reference to "bridge width," but I see you specify "width of
strings." Or does "bridge width" just mean "width of strings" for the
cognoscenti?!
Many thanks and best wishes,
Steven
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 5:38 AM, Markus Lutz <mar...@gmlutz.de
<mailto:mar...@gmlutz.de>> wrote:
The measurements I refer to stem from the new book "Martin und
Johann Christian Hoffmann" by Eszter Fontana, Veit Heller and Klaus
Martius, page 315.
They list up 7 supposedly historic bridges, width of strings (MH =
Martin Hoffmann, JCH = Johann Christian Hoffmann):
MH 9 Nürnberg 169[?] 13c 139mm (DvE: 142)
JCH 3 Brüssel 1716 11c 123mm
JCH 6 Leipzig 1720/32 14c 154mm (DvE: 153)
JCH 21 Brüssel 1730 13c 140mm (DvE: 142)
JCH 29 London, undat. 13c 147mm (DvE: 148)
JCH 38 Berlin, undat. 13c 146mm (DvE: 145)
JCH R7 Kopenhagen 1741 13c 149mm
There seem to be slight differences between Dave's and Klaus's
measurements (DvE = Dave van Edwards; I tried to give the
measurements here for comparison) ...
.. and btw - I would say, it should be an easy task for any
lutemaker to exchange a bridge, if it is too small or too big ,-).
Best regards
Markus
Am 06.10.2017 um 11:14 schrieb Jean-Marie Poirier:
According to David Van Ewdwards measurements, here are the
results for lutes by the Hoffmanns :
HOFFMANN, JC c. 1754 Horniman Museum
148
HOFFMANN, J C c. 1720 Berlin, No. 129 29
145
HOFFMANN, J C c. 1720 London, Horniman 1975 506
LAB 4792 148
HOFFMANN, J C 1720 Leipzig 506
153
HOFFMANN, Martin 169. Nurnberg GNM MI 245
142
HOFFMANN, J. C. 1730 Brussels, Musée
Instrumental M 3188 142
HOFFMANN, J. C. 1720 Paris CNSM E 529
146
HOFFMANN, J. C. Leningrad /St. Petersburg 1346
145
HOFFMANN, Martin 169? Nürnberg MI 245
142
I have a copy of Martin Hoffmann's lute from the Nurnberg museum
and I asked for a wider bridge at 155 because I like to have
some space between courses !
It's all amatter of personal preference indeed !
All the best,
Jean-Marie
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Hi Roman,
140mm is definitely in the range of the historic bridges of
the Hoffmann
lutes, which have widths between 139 mm (MH 9) and 149 mm
(JCH R 7).
The baroque lute of Le Luth Dore also has 140mm, which is -
in my very
personal opinion - really good to handle.
But as Matthew said, that is really a personal preference.
And indeed it
is necessary to try that for yourself.
Best regards
Markus
Am 06.10.2017 um 10:20 schrieb Matthew Daillie:
That is a personal preference, Roman, as it must have
been at the time considering the great variation in
historic bridge spans.
Best,
Matthew
On Oct 6, 2017, at 2:39, Roman Turovsky
<r.turov...@gmail.com <mailto:r.turov...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
140mm bridge width? Caveat emptor.
RT
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