Dear Nancy,
Many years ago the only way to obtain copies of many of these MSs was
to pay for a microfilm copy which the collections often then seemed
willing to make. Some 20/30 years ago the late, and much missed, Donald
Gill gave me a photocopy of Cherbury printed from such a microfilm.
Legibility is not good but is quite passable under decent illumination.
My point in mentioning this is that if a decent facsimile is not
forthcoming shortly, then players could always explore this
possibility. When I archived Donald's collection I didn't find this
microfilm so presumably he borrowed a microfilm - perhaps from the Lute
Society or Lute Society of America....
regards
Martyn
PS I also very much agree with Ron: I find paper copies superior to
trying to read these things from a screen - also with the added
advantage that I can turn corners over to mark pieces I find
particularly notable and can pencil concordances and other observations
in the margins......... M.
__________________________________________________________________
From: Nancy Carlin <na...@nancycarlinassociates.com>
To: Ron Andrico <praelu...@hotmail.com>; "lute...@aol.com"
<lute...@aol.com>; "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2018, 18:54
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book
Chris,
I agree with Ron. I use both digital and book format music and have
been
waiting to buy the Cherbury ms since I first heard about it. I am
especially interested in the noes and concordances.
Nancy
> Dear Chris:
>
> I'm writing in response to Hector's lute list posting on the
subject of
> the Herbert facsimile under consideration for publication. I
would buy
> the Lute Society facsimile edition, and would actively encourage
others
> to do so as well.
>
> There is a certain misconception that, because pdf facsimiles may
be
> readily available from libraries, there is no longer a need for,
nor a
> demand for, good quality printed editions of lute music. I have
> observed that while lute players love to collect music, and also
love
> to get free music, there is simply no replacement for a
well-designed
> printed edition that includes essays on historical background and
> concordances.
>
> I'll wager that most downloaded facsimile editions are simply
archived
> on hard drives and remain there unused. And as much as
technophiles
> love to tout the latest i-pad gizmos, nothing can replace real
paper
> music on a music stand. I'm not the only person who has observed
that
> information from a printed page is mentally processed much more
> effectively than information on a backlit screen.
>
> Yes, please do what is necessary to advance the Herbert facsimile
> project.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ron
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: [1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
on behalf
> of Hector Sequera <[3]hectorl...@mac.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 1:55 PM
> To: [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book
>
> Good afternoon,
> In reply to the original question, the Lute Society just sent an
email
> to its membership to assess whether or not there is any interest
on
> this. Your reply to the message below may determine the fate of
this
> project. If interested simply reply to the secretary at:
> [5]lute...@aol.com <[1]mailto:[6]lute...@aol.com>
> Here is the original message sent this morning to the LS list:
>
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¢â¬"
> 1. HERBERT OF CHERBURY LUTE BOOK FACSIMILE ââ¬" WOULD YOU BUY A
COPY?
>
> We have been talking for some years about producing a facsimile of
the
> Herbert of Cherbury lute book, the last great English renaissance
lute
> manuscript, with music from 6 to 10 courses, but there have been
> delays.
>
> We donââ¬â¢t need prepayments or subscriptions but we need to
have some
> idea of demand ââ¬" especially as sales of facsimiles are less
than they
> were, with some much available online.
>
> If a facsimile of the Herbert of Cherbury lute book were similar
in
> format to our beautiful Dd.2.11 facsimile, and similar in price -
à £50
> to members - WOULD YOU VERY PROBABLY BUY A COPY? PLEASE REPLY TO
THIS
> EMAIL TO LET US KNOW!
>
> And let us know if this would be too expensive, but you would buy
> simple, say, black and white reproduction, for, say à £25.
>
ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"Ã
¢â¬"ââ¬"
> Best wishes,
> Hector
> > On 31 Jan 2018, at 13:39, Matteo Turri
<[7]matteo.o.tu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 28 January 2018 at 12:42, Denys Stephens
> <[1][8]denyssteph...@sky.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Dear Matteo,
> >
> > Thanks for your email! The subject of the planned Cherbury
> facsimile
> > was discussed at the Lute Society committee meeting held last
> December,
> > and there was still strong interest in publishing a hard copy
> facsimile
> > at that time. However, it wasn't known then that the museum
would
> be
> > offering a PDF copy of the manuscript, and that may change
views
> within
> > the committee about the viability of a hard copy edition. So
I'm
> afraid
> > that I can't give you a definitive answer at the moment, but
> hopefully
> > a decision will be made on this later this year. A great deal
of
> work
> > has been done by the society on the introductory material for
the
> > facsimile, and I feel sure that this will be made available by
the
> > society in some form in the not too distant future.
> >
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> >
> > Denys Stephens
> >
> >
> > From: Matteo Turri [[2]mailto:[2][9]matteo.o.tu...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 27 January 2018 13:21
> > To: [3][10]denyssteph...@sky.com
> > Subject: Lord Herbert of Cherbury's Lutebook (now available as
a
> > downlload)
> >
> >
> > Dear Denys,
> >
> > since the Fitzwilliam Museum makes available a download of the
> > facsimile of the Lord Herbert of Cherbury's Lutebook - for Ã
£25.00
> you
> > get access to "a free download" [sic] - , I was wondering when
> the
> > Lute Society will publish its edition of the manuscript.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Matteo Turri
> >
> > On 31 January 2018 at 11:54, Rainer
<[4][11]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I seem to remember that the English LS had announced a
facsimile
> > edition.
> > Rainer
> > On 31.01.2018 11:19, G. C. wrote:
> >
> > Yes, 25 pounds for a "free download" :D
> > G.
> > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Rainer
> > <[1][5][12]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote:
> > Have you received a reply?
> > Rainer
> > On 20.01.2018 10:52, Matteo Turri wrote:
> > We are pleased to offer complete digital copies of
the
> > following
> > manuscripts from the Fitzwilliam collection,
supplied
> in
> > pdf
> > format
> > and available via a free download or on CD.
> > Cost: à £25.00 +vat per manuscript (inc. postage
where
> > necessary).
> > As I understand it, it's either a free download for
the
> > pdf or
> > à £25 for
> > the CD.
> > I just sent them an email - we'll see.
> > Matteo
> > To get on or off this list see list information at
> >
> [2][6][13]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> > --
> > References
> > 1. mailto:[7][14]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de
> > 2.
[8][15]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> >
> > --
> >
> > References
> >
> > Visible links
> > 1. [3]mailto:[16]denyssteph...@sky.com
> > 2. [4]mailto:[17]matteo.o.tu...@gmail.com
> > 3. [5]mailto:[18]denyssteph...@sky.com
> > 4. [6]mailto:[19]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de
> > 5. [7]mailto:[20]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de
> > 6.
[8][21]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> > 7. [9]mailto:[22]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de
> > 8.
[10][23]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> >
> > Hidden links:
> > 10.
>
[11][24]https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#m_-186476389848586657_DAB4FAD
8-2D
> D7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2
> >
> --
>
> --
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:[25]lute...@aol.com
> 2. mailto:[2][26]matteo.o.tu...@gmail.com
> 3. mailto:[27]denyssteph...@sky.com
> 4. mailto:[28]matteo.o.tu...@gmail.com
> 5. mailto:[29]denyssteph...@sky.com
> 6. mailto:[30]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de
> 7. mailto:[31]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de
> 8. [32]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 9. mailto:[33]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de
> 10. [34]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 11.
[35]https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#m_-186476389848586657_DAB4FAD8-2D
D7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2
>
>
--
Nancy Carlin
Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA
[36]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org
PO Box 6499
Concord, CA 94524
USA
925 / 686-5800
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