Yes, I was the LSA's 2nd Microfilm Librarian back starting c1975, and I
have a number of binders with paper copies made from films. Now if you
want a black and white, readable version of Cherbury you can find it on
Sarge Gerbode's website, but there are no concordances and you have to
have a table, play from your computer screen or print it out.
Meanwhile for those who love films and digital versions of lute music,
plans are afoot for the whole LSA Microfilm Library to be digitized and
available in the Members Only section of our website. If things go on
schedule it could happen this Spring.
Nancy
Dear Nancy,
Many years ago the only way to obtain copies of many of these MSs was
to pay for a microfilm copy which the collections often then seemed
willing to make. Some 20/30 years ago the late, and much missed, Donald
Gill gave me a photocopy of Cherbury printed from such a microfilm.
Legibility is not good but is quite passable under decent illumination.
My point in mentioning this is that if a decent facsimile is not
forthcoming shortly, then players could always explore this
possibility. When I archived Donald's collection I didn't find this
microfilm so presumably he borrowed a microfilm - perhaps from the Lute
Society or Lute Society of America....
regards
Martyn
PS I also very much agree with Ron: I find paper copies superior to
trying to read these things from a screen - also with the added
advantage that I can turn corners over to mark pieces I find
particularly notable and can pencil concordances and other observations
in the margins......... M.
__________________________________________________________________
From: Nancy Carlin [1]<na...@nancycarlinassociates.com>
To: Ron Andrico [2]<praelu...@hotmail.com>; [3]"lute...@aol.com"
[4]<lute...@aol.com>; [5]"lute@cs.dartmouth.edu"
[6]<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2018, 18:54
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book
Chris,
I agree with Ron. I use both digital and book format music and have
been
waiting to buy the Cherbury ms since I first heard about it. I am
especially interested in the noes and concordances.
Nancy
> Dear Chris:
>
> I'm writing in response to Hector's lute list posting on the
subject of
> the Herbert facsimile under consideration for publication. I
would buy
> the Lute Society facsimile edition, and would actively encourage
others
> to do so as well.
>
> There is a certain misconception that, because pdf facsimiles may
be
> readily available from libraries, there is no longer a need for,
nor a
> demand for, good quality printed editions of lute music. I have
> observed that while lute players love to collect music, and also
love
> to get free music, there is simply no replacement for a
well-designed
> printed edition that includes essays on historical background and
> concordances.
>
> I'll wager that most downloaded facsimile editions are simply
archived
> on hard drives and remain there unused. And as much as
technophiles
> love to tout the latest i-pad gizmos, nothing can replace real
paper
> music on a music stand. I'm not the only person who has observed
that
> information from a printed page is mentally processed much more
> effectively than information on a backlit screen.
>
> Yes, please do what is necessary to advance the Herbert facsimile
> project.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ron
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: [7]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[8]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
on behalf
> of Hector Sequera <[9]hectorl...@mac.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 1:55 PM
> To: [10]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book
>
> Good afternoon,
> In reply to the original question, the Lute Society just sent an
email
> to its membership to assess whether or not there is any interest
on
> this. Your reply to the message below may determine the fate of
this
> project. If interested simply reply to the secretary at:
> [11]lute...@aol.com <[1]mailto:[12]lute...@aol.com>
> Here is the original message sent this morning to the LS list:
>
ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"
> 1. HERBERT OF CHERBURY LUTE BOOK FACSIMILE ââ¬" WOULD YOU BUY A
COPY?
>
> We have been talking for some years about producing a facsimile of
the
> Herbert of Cherbury lute book, the last great English renaissance
lute
> manuscript, with music from 6 to 10 courses, but there have been
> delays.
>
> We donââ¬â¢t need prepayments or subscriptions but we need to have
some
> idea of demand ââ¬" especially as sales of facsimiles are less than
they
> were, with some much available online.
>
> If a facsimile of the Herbert of Cherbury lute book were similar
in
> format to our beautiful Dd.2.11 facsimile, and similar in price -
ã50
> to members - WOULD YOU VERY PROBABLY BUY A COPY? PLEASE REPLY TO
THIS
> EMAIL TO LET US KNOW!
>
> And let us know if this would be too expensive, but you would buy
> simple, say, black and white reproduction, for, say ã25.
>
ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"ââ¬"
> Best wishes,
> Hector
> > On 31 Jan 2018, at 13:39, Matteo Turri
<[13]matteo.o.tu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 28 January 2018 at 12:42, Denys Stephens
> <[1][14]denyssteph...@sky.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Dear Matteo,
> >
> > Thanks for your email! The subject of the planned Cherbury
> facsimile
> > was discussed at the Lute Society committee meeting held last
> December,
> > and there was still strong interest in publishing a hard copy
> facsimile
> > at that time. However, it wasn't known then that the museum
would
> be
> > offering a PDF copy of the manuscript, and that may change
views
> within
> > the committee about the viability of a hard copy edition. So
I'm
> afraid
> > that I can't give you a definitive answer at the moment, but
> hopefully
> > a decision will be made on this later this year. A great deal
of
> work
> > has been done by the society on the introductory material for
the
> > facsimile, and I feel sure that this will be made available by
the
> > society in some form in the not too distant future.
> >
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> >
> > Denys Stephens
> >
> >
> > From: Matteo Turri [[2]mailto:[2][15]matteo.o.tu...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 27 January 2018 13:21
> > To: [3][16]denyssteph...@sky.com
> > Subject: Lord Herbert of Cherbury's Lutebook (now available as
a
> > downlload)
> >
> >
> > Dear Denys,
> >
> > since the Fitzwilliam Museum makes available a download of the
> > facsimile of the Lord Herbert of Cherbury's Lutebook - for
ã25.00
> you
> > get access to "a free download" [sic] - , I was wondering when
> the
> > Lute Society will publish its edition of the manuscript.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Matteo Turri
> >
> > On 31 January 2018 at 11:54, Rainer
<[4][17]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I seem to remember that the English LS had announced a
facsimile
> > edition.
> > Rainer
> > On 31.01.2018 11:19, G. C. wrote:
> >
> > Yes, 25 pounds for a "free download" :D
> > G.
> > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Rainer
> > <[1][5][18]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote:
> > Have you received a reply?
> > Rainer
> > On 20.01.2018 10:52, Matteo Turri wrote:
> > We are pleased to offer complete digital copies of
the
> > following
> > manuscripts from the Fitzwilliam collection,
supplied
> in
> > pdf
> > format
> > and available via a free download or on CD.
> > Cost: ã25.00 +vat per manuscript (inc. postage
where
> > necessary).
> > As I understand it, it's either a free download for
the
> > pdf or
> > ã25 for
> > the CD.
> > I just sent them an email - we'll see.
> > Matteo
> > To get on or off this list see list information at
> >
> [2][6][19]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> > --
> > References
> > 1. mailto:[7][20]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de
> > 2.
[8][21]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> >
> > --
> >
> > References
> >
> > Visible links
> > 1. [3]mailto:[22]denyssteph...@sky.com
> > 2. [4]mailto:[23]matteo.o.tu...@gmail.com
> > 3. [5]mailto:[24]denyssteph...@sky.com
> > 4. [6]mailto:[25]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de
> > 5. [7]mailto:[26]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de
> > 6.
[8][27]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> > 7. [9]mailto:[28]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de
> > 8.
[10][29]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> >
> > Hidden links:
> > 10.
>
[11][30]https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#m_-186476389848586657_DAB4FAD
8-2D
> D7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2
> >
> --
>
> --
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:[31]lute...@aol.com
> 2. mailto:[2][32]matteo.o.tu...@gmail.com
> 3. mailto:[33]denyssteph...@sky.com
> 4. mailto:[34]matteo.o.tu...@gmail.com
> 5. mailto:[35]denyssteph...@sky.com
> 6. mailto:[36]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de
> 7. mailto:[37]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de
> 8. [38]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 9. mailto:[39]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de
> 10. [40]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 11.
[41]https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#m_-186476389848586657_DAB4FAD8-2D
D7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2
>
>
--
Nancy Carlin
Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA
[42]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org
PO Box 6499
Concord, CA 94524
USA
925 / 686-5800
[43]www.groundsanddivisions.info
[44]www.nancycarlinassociates.com
--
Nancy Carlin
Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA
[45]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org
PO Box 6499
Concord, CA 94524
USA
925 / 686-5800
[46]www.groundsanddivisions.info
[47]www.nancycarlinassociates.com
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