Chris,
   Well, my experience is that I recounted earlier - perhaps, as you
   suggest, it's to do with the quality of the gut and I've been lucky
   with most of my my fret gut supplies, since, you're right, some
   supplies are better than others.  If possible I also try and use old
   playing strings (not frayed bits obviously) and, I suppose, this is
   what the 'Old Ones' did and so perhaps the economics of gut frets was
   not to unmanageable.
   Incidentally, I'm not sure if old lute gut was softer than modern.
   Certainly from pictures etc it generally seems to be more pliable as
   Mimmo Peruffo, amongst others, has pointed out but that's not the same
   thing necessarily.
   MH
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   From: Christopher Wilke <[email protected]>
   To: Martyn Hodgson <[email protected]>; Matthew Daillie
   <[email protected]>; "[email protected]"
   <[email protected]>
   Sent: Friday, 9 March 2018, 13:49
   Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Loose frets
   Martyn,
   I've actually had the opposite experience with the durability of double
   frets. Their practical lifespan isn't as long as single frets precisely
   because the side closest to the bridge takes the wear, leaving an
   uneven relation to the bridge side. This means they start buzzing very
   soon after being put on. (I used double frets on one of my albums. The
   track running order differed from the order in which they were
   recorded, but you can tell in exactly what sequence the pieces were
   done by the sound of the frets. By the end of the session, the fingered
   bass notes started growling like a fretless bass. And that was only
   over a few days of heavy playing!) Single frets, by comparison, can
   theoretically last until the "bridge side" is the fret above it.
   Another obvious disadvantage to double frets - they of course take up
   twice the fret gut. I'm not so deep in the pockets that I can afford to
   fret twice the number of instruments I actually own!
   I suspect double frets may have made more sense with historical gut,
   which was obviously more pliable and probably softer and more elastic
   than what we have available today.
   Chris
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   On Friday, March 9, 2018, 7:10 AM, Martyn Hodgson
   <[email protected]> wrote:

     I'm pleased to hear it. Another advantage of double frets is that,

     being twice the length, the their elastic deformation and recovery is

     physically superior to a single: in short, you can move them around

     more (if you're that way inclined) without them becoming as loose as
   a

     single loop would.

     A yet further advantage is that the loop closer to the nut takes most

     of the wear leaving the fret loop closer to the bridge with a cleaner

     take-off for a longer period than a wholly single loop.

     rgds

     MH

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     From: Matthew Daillie <[2][email protected]>

     To: "[3][email protected]" <[4][email protected]>

     Sent: Friday, 9 March 2018, 11:33

     Subject: [LUTE] Re: Loose frets

     I've never had issues with single knots.

     Best,

     Matthew

     On 09/03/2018 11:39, Martyn Hodgson wrote:

     >  Indeed. And it also depends whether single fret loops are employed

     >    (something of a modern fad) rather than the  better, and easier
   to

     tie

     >    firmly, historical double fret loops

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