Thank you Stephan,
   Would you kindly share what precise fret positions result when you set
   the
    'fifth fret so high that you can still enjoy and work your way
   through.....'
   MH

   On Friday, 26 July 2019, 13:17:31 BST, Stephan Olbertz
   <stephan.olbe...@web.de> wrote:
   You wouldn't even need a tuner. Just set a fifth fret so high that you
   can
   still enjoy and work your way through all the other frets and open
   courses
   by means of comparing octaves and unisons.
   Use strings that are neither too old nor too new. And be sure to tune
   to a
   fourth based tuning.
   Regards
   Stephan
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   Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Juli 2019 13:36
   An: Martyn Hodgson; [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Steve Ramey
   Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Test 9od temperament)
     Or you could get a meantone tuner and use your ears and not a
   measuring
     tape
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     From: [4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on
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     of Martyn Hodgson <[6]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
     Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 4:52:38 AM
     To: [7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu <[8]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; Steve Ramey
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     Subject: [LUTE] Re: Test 9od temperament)
         Dear Steve,
         Yes - the recent leading topic of the day (lute fretting
     temperaments)
         also suddenly dried up!
         Perhaps it's to do with advocates of various unequal temperaments
         being put on the spot to actually give the fret positions they
         supposedly
         employ.....
         Also see below
         MH
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         Martyn Hodgson <[10]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
           * To:[11]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu list 23 Jul at 08:31
               Further to all this, but on a slightly different tack: what
             precisely
               is it that individuals mean when they advocate some
   particular
               unequal temperament on the lute?
               Much is freely bandied with phrases about 1/4 comma, 1/6
     comma,
             1/8
               comma and other unequal temperaments but rarely (indeed
   never
     in
               this latest thread) is it ever spelt out what precise
     numerical
             fretting
               positions are actually employed by the writer (see below
   for
     an
               in ET of the sort of thing I mean).
               Recently I enquired, off list to avoid possible
   embarrassment,
     of
             one
               contributor who seemed very firm in their convictions and
     asked
               precisely what fretting pattern they employed and later I
   even
             sent an
               example (for ET) of the sort of simple numerical
   information I
             was
               asking about. Here it is (obviously, this theoretical
   example
             doesn't
               take into account the usual refinements necessary to adjust
     for
               take-off point at the bridge and the slight effect on pitch
   of
               displacement of a string when pressed down to the
     fingerboard):
     -------------------------------------------------------------------
             ----
               For example, in ET:
               fret              distance to fret from bridge
                                   to four significant figures)
               0 (nut)              1.0000
               1                      0.9439
               2                      0.8909
               3                      0.8410
               4                      0.7938
               5                      0.7493
               6                      0.7072
               7                      0.6675
               8                      0.6301
               9                      0.5947
               10                    0.5614
               etc......
     -------------------------------------------------------------------
             ----
               It would surely be helpful in understanding an individual's
             preference
               for the particular temperament they advocate if the precise
             fretting
               positions were stated in any communication.  Who knows, it
     might
             even
               lead to some sort of consensus.............
               MH
           *

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         On Thursday, 25 July 2019, 19:17:30 BST, Steve Ramey
         <[12]stevera...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
           Haven't got anything from the list for a couple days.  This is
     only a
           test.
           Steve
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