Thank you Stephan, Would you kindly share what precise fret positions result when you set the 'fifth fret so high that you can still enjoy and work your way through.....' MH
On Friday, 26 July 2019, 13:17:31 BST, Stephan Olbertz <stephan.olbe...@web.de> wrote: You wouldn't even need a tuner. Just set a fifth fret so high that you can still enjoy and work your way through all the other frets and open courses by means of comparing octaves and unisons. Use strings that are neither too old nor too new. And be sure to tune to a fourth based tuning. Regards Stephan -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Roland Hayes Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Juli 2019 13:36 An: Martyn Hodgson; [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Steve Ramey Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Test 9od temperament) Or you could get a meantone tuner and use your ears and not a measuring tape Get [1]Outlook for Android __________________________________________________________________ From: [4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of Martyn Hodgson <[6]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 4:52:38 AM To: [7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu <[8]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; Steve Ramey <[9]stevera...@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Test 9od temperament) Dear Steve, Yes - the recent leading topic of the day (lute fretting temperaments) also suddenly dried up! Perhaps it's to do with advocates of various unequal temperaments being put on the spot to actually give the fret positions they supposedly employ..... Also see below MH ---------------------------------------------------------------- Martyn Hodgson <[10]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu * To:[11]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu list 23 Jul at 08:31 Further to all this, but on a slightly different tack: what precisely is it that individuals mean when they advocate some particular unequal temperament on the lute? Much is freely bandied with phrases about 1/4 comma, 1/6 comma, 1/8 comma and other unequal temperaments but rarely (indeed never in this latest thread) is it ever spelt out what precise numerical fretting positions are actually employed by the writer (see below for an in ET of the sort of thing I mean). Recently I enquired, off list to avoid possible embarrassment, of one contributor who seemed very firm in their convictions and asked precisely what fretting pattern they employed and later I even sent an example (for ET) of the sort of simple numerical information I was asking about. Here it is (obviously, this theoretical example doesn't take into account the usual refinements necessary to adjust for take-off point at the bridge and the slight effect on pitch of displacement of a string when pressed down to the fingerboard): ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- For example, in ET: fret distance to fret from bridge to four significant figures) 0 (nut) 1.0000 1 0.9439 2 0.8909 3 0.8410 4 0.7938 5 0.7493 6 0.7072 7 0.6675 8 0.6301 9 0.5947 10 0.5614 etc...... ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- It would surely be helpful in understanding an individual's preference for the particular temperament they advocate if the precise fretting positions were stated in any communication. Who knows, it might even lead to some sort of consensus............. MH * ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ On Thursday, 25 July 2019, 19:17:30 BST, Steve Ramey <[12]stevera...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Haven't got anything from the list for a couple days. This is only a test. Steve -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1][13]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [2][14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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