Thank you Stephan,
Would you kindly share what precise fret positions result when you set
the
'fifth fret so high that you can still enjoy and work your way
through.....'
MH
On Friday, 26 July 2019, 13:17:31 BST, Stephan Olbertz
<[email protected]> wrote:
You wouldn't even need a tuner. Just set a fifth fret so high that you
can
still enjoy and work your way through all the other frets and open
courses
by means of comparing octaves and unisons.
Use strings that are neither too old nor too new. And be sure to tune
to a
fourth based tuning.
Regards
Stephan
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An: Martyn Hodgson; [3][email protected]; Steve Ramey
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Test 9od temperament)
Or you could get a meantone tuner and use your ears and not a
measuring
tape
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Dear Steve,
Yes - the recent leading topic of the day (lute fretting
temperaments)
also suddenly dried up!
Perhaps it's to do with advocates of various unequal temperaments
being put on the spot to actually give the fret positions they
supposedly
employ.....
Also see below
MH
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Martyn Hodgson <[10][email protected]
* To:[11][email protected] list 23 Jul at 08:31
Further to all this, but on a slightly different tack: what
precisely
is it that individuals mean when they advocate some
particular
unequal temperament on the lute?
Much is freely bandied with phrases about 1/4 comma, 1/6
comma,
1/8
comma and other unequal temperaments but rarely (indeed
never
in
this latest thread) is it ever spelt out what precise
numerical
fretting
positions are actually employed by the writer (see below
for
an
in ET of the sort of thing I mean).
Recently I enquired, off list to avoid possible
embarrassment,
of
one
contributor who seemed very firm in their convictions and
asked
precisely what fretting pattern they employed and later I
even
sent an
example (for ET) of the sort of simple numerical
information I
was
asking about. Here it is (obviously, this theoretical
example
doesn't
take into account the usual refinements necessary to adjust
for
take-off point at the bridge and the slight effect on pitch
of
displacement of a string when pressed down to the
fingerboard):
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For example, in ET:
fret distance to fret from bridge
to four significant figures)
0 (nut) 1.0000
1 0.9439
2 0.8909
3 0.8410
4 0.7938
5 0.7493
6 0.7072
7 0.6675
8 0.6301
9 0.5947
10 0.5614
etc......
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It would surely be helpful in understanding an individual's
preference
for the particular temperament they advocate if the precise
fretting
positions were stated in any communication. Who knows, it
might
even
lead to some sort of consensus.............
MH
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On Thursday, 25 July 2019, 19:17:30 BST, Steve Ramey
<[12][email protected]> wrote:
Haven't got anything from the list for a couple days. This is
only a
test.
Steve
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