Everything you need about fret positions is written in David van Oojien
page about temperaments. I use the 1/6 comma (pythagorean) with the
first fret to the A flat position (for a G first string). That gives a
very wrong F sharp on the IV course (it is a G flat indeed) but old
music does show D major chord with the F sharp to the IV course really
really seldom (that's another thing that seems to show they used some
sort of temperament)
Francesco
-------- Messaggio originale --------
Da: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu>
Data: 26/07/19 18:53 (GMT+01:00)
A: David van Ooijen <davidvanooi...@gmail.com>
Cc: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu list" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: Test 9od temperament)
Thank you: it will be interesting to compare your preferences
for fret positioning to those advocated by others - should they
ever appear......
MH
On Friday, 26 July 2019, 17:42:19 BST, David van Ooijen
<davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Somebody wants numbers? In the link below are some numbers.
But using your ears is a better idea than blindly (deafly?)
following
(mine or other people's) numbers. Get the major third you like
(harmonic f-a on 4th course for a pure major third, or a something
slightly less extreme if you so wish) and then tune octaves and
shift
your frets around: 1st fret up for the flats or down for the
sharps
(I
have my continuo archlute 1st fret up for the flats, with a
tastini
on
5, 6 and 7 for the sharps, I avoid the g# on first course - or try
to
avoid it anyway), 2nd fret down, 3rd fret up, 4th fret down, 5th
only
slightly up, 6th and 7th fret down again. Tune, adjust, fiddle
around
until you're happy with it.
But someone was asking for numbers in stead of real life luting.
Here
are my numbers:
[1][1]https://davidvanooijen.wordpress.com/mean-tone-temperament-for-lu
te/
David
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 at 18:19, [2][2]s.wa...@ntlworld.com
<[3][3]s.wa...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
You use your ears to move the frets? Wouldn't using your
fingers
be
easier?
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Test 9od temperament)
From: howard posner
To: "[4][4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu list"
CC:
You might want to reread the part about using your ears.
"Precise
fret positions" is an irrelevant concept if you tune by
actually
listening; that's why your repeated demands for numbers
are
going
unanswered.
> On Jul 26, 2019, at 6:40 AM, Martyn Hodgson
<[5][5]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> Thank you Stephan,
> Would you kindly share what precise fret positions
result
when
you set
> the
> 'fifth fret so high that you can still enjoy and work
your way
> through.....'
> MH
>
> On Friday, 26 July 2019, 13:17:31 BST, Stephan
Olbertz
> <[6][6]stephan.olbe...@web.de> wrote:
> You wouldn't even need a tuner. Just set a fifth fret
so
high
that you
> can
> still enjoy and work your way through all the other
frets
and
open
> courses
> by means of comparing octaves and unisons.
> Use strings that are neither too old nor too new. And
be
sure to
tune
> to a
> fourth based tuning.
> Regards
> Stephan
>
> Im Auftrag
> von Roland Hayes
> Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Juli 2019 13:36
> An: Martyn Hodgson; [3][7][7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu;
Steve
Ramey
> Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Test 9od temperament)
> Or you could get a meantone tuner and use your ears
and
not a
> measuring
> tape
> Get [1]Outlook for Android
>
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