Dear Joachim,
I used this term to give the idea for someone who can't just look at it, you know this is erbsenzahlery :) And where is the same accuracy when trying to show me an example? ;-))) By Condes Claros you mean those of Valderrabano I guess? They are fancy, but not that fancy. I was looking for the exact figuration. Trying to explain the figuration by saying that variations need variation (...duh!) doesn't really tell me anything. ;-) On 10.08.19 11:23, Joachim Lüdtke wrote:
Dear Tristan, to be truely Alberti one would have to be a bass, ;), and it's anachronistic to connect such figurations to Alberti because the source precedes the time of Alberti (at least a bit). You will find similar things in Spanish variations of e.g. Conde claros. I think one could describe what we find there as a possible solution to the question how to write (or play or improvise) variations on a rather slow moving progression, if you have the scale runs already through. Best Joachim -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: [LUTE] Anachronistic playing style - Adriaenssen Datum: 2019-08-09T02:38:53+0200 Von: "Tristan von Neumann" <tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> An: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> The "Passomeso in Basso" from Adriaenssen's Pratum Musicum 1584 features two variations in a very odd anachronistic/visionary style: It's basically the idea of "Alberti bass". (m. 114 - 119 and 225 - 238) http://gerbode.net/sources/Adriaenssen/pratum_musicum_1584/pdf/61_passomeso_in_basso.pdf This style seems to come from nowhere, and it has to my knowledge never been used afterwards. But I haven't looked at everything. Does anyone know any similar passage in that era? And: is there a recording of the piece? It is probably the most elaborate and creative Passamezzo ever. I use it as exercise - feels like training for a marathon. :) T* To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
