I can't agree with that assertion - it mostly does. But, in any case, I didn't wish to over-complicate the matter for Mr Probert MH
On Wednesday, 5 February 2020, 10:53:14 GMT, Konstantin Shchenikov <[email protected]> wrote: WARNING! Rule of the octave doesn't work at the Monteverdi's times! In fact, theory has changed. In XVII c. bass movements does matter (on what interval and in what direction bass moves) without any correspondances with step of the scale. Check the rules in Bianchiardi "Breve regola per imparar a suonare" for figuring (and preface to Viadana's "Cento concerti ecclesiastici"). Arpeggiation is in use, check the prefaces in Piccinini's "Libro Primo" and Kapsberger's "libro quattro di chitarrone". Some tips about little passages, passing notes and rhythmical treatment and several examples can also be found in Agazzari's "Del suonare sopra'l basso" and Bianciardi mentioned above. Turning to the instrument, you can use your high range, which absents on theorbo. But archlute has high range as well, and it's the other continuo instrument of XVII cent. And some archlutes could have octave basses. I, personally, see no problem with d-minor tuning, but the sound is different from archlutes, so the whole idea must be close, but not the same. Good luck! ÃÃ, 5 ÃõòÃ. 2020 ó. ò 13:20, Martyn Hodgson <[1][email protected]>: Howard's advice is very sound. In practice, go through the score and figure up the bass part using the 'rule of the octave'; and generally employ 6 chords where the bass is sharpened; and also use the occasional suspension (eg 7 - 6 or 4-3) to taste (though an occasional passing clash with the upper lines is perfectly acceptable in this repertoire). Always checking, of course, with the vocal lines; so that for example, bars 22-23 will be generally figured [ 6(3) - 7/5 ] [(5)4 - # ]. Whether you play a major chord on bar 24 or a bare fifth is, perhaps, also a matter of taste. Insert the usual cadential formula as necessary, for example, a 4 - 3 in bar 27 Then simply play the chords (three parts is probably all you'll need) Here's a clean version to work on [1][2]http://www3.cpdl.org/wiki/images/8/82/Mont-aes.pdf MH On Wednesday, 5 February 2020, 07:22:51 GMT, howard posner <[3][email protected]> wrote: > On Feb 4, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Mark Probert <[2][4][email protected]> wrote: > > Suppose I given a piece of early > Baroque music, take Monteverdi's duet "Ardo e scoprir"[1] by way of > specific example, and I want to create a passable continuo line to > support the singers (potentially with me singing one of lines). > > I come armed with my lute, an a-historic Dm 13c lute, a certain amount > of theory, but no real clue apart from "play the indicated root" and > "arpeggiate the triads". Neither of those is necessarily a good idea, especially if by "play the indicated root" you mean assuming the bass note is the root of the chord. But if you know the basic rules (you're familiar with the rule of the octave?) you can get most of the harmonies right without too much trouble. > Given this is akin to asking "how do you realize a bass," can anyone > point me in the direction of how you start such a journey on a lute? If you want to learn how to do it, I'd start with Nigel North's "Continuo Playing on the Lute, Archlute and Theorbo." If you just want to slap something together for a specific piece, you might get a realized version (which will probably be intended for piano) and alter it to suit your needs. > And if the theory is much different using a Dm lute rather than theorbo? The theory doesn't change. A major chord is a major chord and a suspension is a suspension. You'll have higher notes than a theorbo has, but less volume and sustain. Sometimes this means playing a busier accompaniment to keep the sound going (good luck with that if you're singing at the same time). To get on or off this list see list information at [3][5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [6]http://www3.cpdl.org/wiki/images/8/82/Mont-aes.pdf 2. mailto:[7][email protected] 3. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. http://www3.cpdl.org/wiki/images/8/82/Mont-aes.pdf 3. mailto:[email protected] 4. mailto:[email protected] 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. http://www3.cpdl.org/wiki/images/8/82/Mont-aes.pdf 7. mailto:[email protected] 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
