[LUTE] Re: Ringfinger

[Leonard Williams]

   David--
       When omitting the ring finger, how does one effectively employ the
   other fingers to hit all required strings? E.g.--two with the thumb,
   two with index? Depending on the string spacing?  I'm interested in
   this because, due to a minor deformity, I can't always use the ring
   finger effectively.
   Thanks and regards,
   Leonard Williams
   -----Original Message-----
   From: David van Ooijen <davidvanooi...@gmail.com>
   Cc: Lute List <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2020 9:43 am
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Ringfinger
     I have a nasty callus on my ring finger at the moment, studied too
   much
     romantic guitar last week, so I did my concert (Dowland and Byrd on
     10-course lute) without ring finger today. Lovely tone, much better!
     David
     On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 13:44, Rainer
   <[1][1]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de>
     wrote:
         From Judenkunig's
       Utilis et compendiaria introductio (1510-20 (?), no year)
       Preterea admonendus es ut literas et characteres numeri quotquot
       ordinatim signis notarum supponuntur,
       singulas eorum cordas singulis digitis (si modo digitorum dextre
       numerum non
       excedunt) discretim aut si plures sunt quam quatuor, digitorumque
       numerum
       superant, simul uno ictu pollicis oberrando percucias pulsesque.
       Die einzelnen Chorsaiten der Buchstaben und Ziffern sollen mit je
       einem Finger angeschlagen
       werden, falls sie nicht etwa die Zahl der Finger der rechten Hand
       Ã ¼berschreiten.
       Sind es aber mehr als vier Chorsaiten und à ¼berschreiten die Zahl
       der Finger, sollen
       sie (alle) zugleich mit einem Daumenschlag gestreift werden.
       German translation by Hans Radke
       Anybody crazy enough to provide an English translation?
       Anyway, this clearly indirectly states that the third finger of the
       right hand was used.
       See
       Hans Radke
       Acta Musicologica, Vol. 52, Fasc. 2 (Jul. - Dec., 1980), pp.
   134-147
       Am 30.08.2020 um 21:10 schrieb Martin Shepherd:
       > Le Roy (1568/74) explains it all...
       >
       > M
       >
       > On 30/08/2020 17:14, Leonard Williams wrote:
       >>      Good question--I have a hard time getting my ring finger
       working well,
       >>      especially switching between single-note runs and four-note
       chords.  I
       >>      can't separate it far enough from my pinky. How were chords
       of more
       >>      than three notes played without ring finger in thumb-in
       play?
       >>      Regards,
       >>      Leonard Williams
       >>      -----Original Message-----
       >>      From: [2][2]yuval.dvo...@posteo.de
       >>      To: lute net <[3][3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; Lute arc
       >>      <[4][4]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu>
       >>      Sent: Sun, Aug 30, 2020 8:59 am
       >>      Subject: [LUTE] Ringfinger
       >>      Dear all,
       >>      first of all I'd like to express my sincerest gratitude
       towards Wayne
       >>      for creating this great forum! Unfortunately I became only
       a member a
       >>      few years ago, but still I enjoyed much of the discussions
       here! I
       >>      hope,
       >>      that the list will continue also after Wayne's retirement!
       >>      The actual reason for writing is this time about the use of
       the
       >>      ringfinger of the right hand in 16th/early 17th century
       lute music.
       >>      What
       >>      do we know about it? When did lute players start to use it?
       It would be
       >>      great to collect some sources, with your generous help!
       Also ideas for
       >>      modern literature is appreciated!
       >>      Have a nice sunday and enjoy lute playing
       >>      Yuval
       >>      To get on or off this list see list information at
       >>
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       >>
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       >>
       >
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