Daumenschlag also known as Durchstreichen

On 8/31/2020 9:32 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote:
    I'll give it a try. Something like...

    "The individual signs and numbers (of a chord) should be plucked with
    one finger each as long as it doesn't exceed the number of fingers of
    the right hand. When it has more than four courses that exceed the
    number of fingers, play them all with a strum of the thumb
    (Daumenschlag)."

    Chris

    On Monday, August 31, 2020, 9:08 AM, Rainer
    <rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote:

    From Judenkunig's

    Utilis et compendiaria introductio (1510-20 (?), no year)

    Preterea admonendus es ut literas et characteres numeri quotquot
    ordinatim signis notarum supponuntur,

    singulas eorum cordas singulis digitis (si modo digitorum dextre
    numerum non

    excedunt) discretim aut si plures sunt quam quatuor, digitorumque
    numerum

    superant, simul uno ictu pollicis oberrando percucias pulsesque.

    Die einzelnen Chorsaiten der Buchstaben und Ziffern sollen mit je einem
    Finger angeschlagen

    werden, falls sie nicht etwa die Zahl der Finger der rechten Hand
    überschreiten.

    Sind es aber mehr als vier Chorsaiten und überschreiten die Zahl der
    Finger, sollen

    sie (alle) zugleich mit einem Daumenschlag gestreift werden.

    German translation by Hans Radke

    Anybody crazy enough to provide an English translation?

    Anyway, this clearly indirectly states that the third finger of the
    right hand was used.

    See

    Hans Radke

    Acta Musicologica, Vol. 52, Fasc. 2 (Jul. - Dec., 1980), pp. 134-147

    Am 30.08.2020 um 21:10 schrieb Martin Shepherd:

    > Le Roy (1568/74) explains it all...

    >

    > M

    >

    > On 30/08/2020 17:14, Leonard Williams wrote:

    >>     Good question--I have a hard time getting my ring finger working
    well,

    >>     especially switching between single-note runs and four-note
    chords.  I

    >>     can't separate it far enough from my pinky. How were chords of
    more

    >>     than three notes played without ring finger in thumb-in play?

    >>     Regards,

    >>     Leonard Williams

    >>     -----Original Message-----

    >>     From: [1]yuval.dvo...@posteo.de

    >>     To: lute net <[2]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; Lute arc

    >>     <[3]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu>

    >>     Sent: Sun, Aug 30, 2020 8:59 am

    >>     Subject: [LUTE] Ringfinger

    >>     Dear all,

    >>     first of all I'd like to express my sincerest gratitude towards
    Wayne

    >>     for creating this great forum! Unfortunately I became only a
    member a

    >>     few years ago, but still I enjoyed much of the discussions here!
    I

    >>     hope,

    >>     that the list will continue also after Wayne's retirement!

    >>     The actual reason for writing is this time about the use of the

    >>     ringfinger of the right hand in 16th/early 17th century lute
    music.

    >>     What

    >>     do we know about it? When did lute players start to use it? It
    would be

    >>     great to collect some sources, with your generous help! Also
    ideas for

    >>     modern literature is appreciated!

    >>     Have a nice sunday and enjoy lute playing

    >>     Yuval

    >>     To get on or off this list see list information at

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    >> References

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    >>     1. [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

    >>

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References

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