On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Daniel Dalton wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 03:01:54PM +1100, Peter Ross wrote:
>> The OP may have a problem with some weird daemon that is stuck when he
>> logs in.
>
> So I disabled gdm on boot and decided to try startx from a console.
> I checked the network was up and running including dns.
> Then I ran startx.
> It took approximately 40 seconds for everything to become ready to use.
> So about 10 seconds faster than gdm I suppose.
>
> Is this still an unreasonable delay and if so does this rule out the
> daemon waiting for dns to become functional first...?

I think so, the problem may be somewhere else.

You could to switch to a virtual console (Ctrl-Alt-F[1..6]) and have 
tcpdump on it, seeing what the traffic is.

You also could run strace there, seeing what the processes are doing.

Maybe even top may give you an indication what's going on.

>> With Windowmaker that daemon would not start in the first place. Problem
>> solved.
>
> Hmm, maybe I will look into this. Though I wonder if there are any
> accessibility implications since I use orca...

Hmmh, I don't know how orca works with "non-gnome desktop" and apps.

Although, Windowmaker does not prevent you from using gnome apps. I use 
eog and evince, there is gnome-terminal etc.

But I don't know how orca is commuicating with the Gnome apps, whether it 
needs a Gnome specific messaging system running or so (Even with 
Windowmaker I am running dbus at least).

Regards
Peter
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