On 07.06.13 13:20, Trent W. Buck wrote:
> For example, anyone doing a simple "dist-upgrade" from Squeeze to
> Wheezy is likely to completely bugger their system due to apt blowing
> its heap trying to find an ordering ("could not perform immediate
> configuration").

Ah, then dist-upgrade remains an unreliable process, even on debain.
I'd clone before upgrading, for quick unbuggering, but a process which
doesn't work is of limited usefulness. 

At least, on redhat, ISTR that an attempted upgrade overreach resulted
in a safe failure to proceed, and a warning. Finding an old intermediate
version, and upgrading in two steps worked. (Many years ago. Haven't
tried since.)

> Anyone that follows the release notes FIRST can allegedly avoid this,
> but once it's happened repairing it is allegedly hard.

A dist-upgrade upgrades thousands of files, across hundreds of packages.
I'm at a loss to understand how it could be either practical or
worthwhile to manually check for stuff-ups across all of them.

I'm accustomed to scouring README and INSTALL notes on source tarballs,
but a working package manager is constructed for the purpose of managing
the installs, at least to the extent of not doing harm. (It can't always
be expected to succeed in installing, I accept.)

> Ubuntu knows their users can't read, so instead they use d-r-u, which
> basically downloads a tarball of filthy little kludges to workaround
> upgrade issues.

That seems like a definitive recommendation for installing, and not
upgrading.

Erik

-- 
Never worry about theory as long as the machinery does what it's
supposed to do.
                                                   - Robert A. Heinlein

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