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On 3/10/24 1:26 pm, Russell Coker via luv-main wrote: > On Thursday, 3 October 2024 09:09:20 AEST Duncan Roe via luv-main wrote: >> ** You can text 3 to 3498 on either Telstra or Optus networks for a text >> response as to whether you'll be OK > > The text response will tell you if it records VoLTE as working a couple of > weeks ago (change phones and it will take > weeks to notice). That doesn't reflect whether emergency calls can work as > desired, ideally 000 will work even if the > phone is locked or has no SIM. Just another experience to relay. I have a Moto G 5G Plus that I had a screen repair done, due to a shattered screen; the repair not so good, but that is another matter. My OnePlus 5 mobile these days is normally only used these days via WiFi hotspot from the Moto, it needs a battery replacement and the OP5 is rather old now and not supporting VoLTE (unless I'm mistaken). Anyway because of the screen repair, I ejected a SIM from the Moto and placed it in to the OP5. Later, not sure exactly when, I got a message to the Moto saying that my phone was not supported; I think this was only due to the fact that something was "registered" when the SIM was in the OP5; there were no former messages and none since then either. NB: The Moto was a "Telstra" version and I believe, aside from the screen issue, is a rather good phone despite the lack of security support from Motorola of course. It isn't running on the Telstra network now and it never was "locked" to any network. So I think this mobile probably has Telstra VoLTE support as well as the standard VoLTE support which it is using on the Optus network via a reseller. I'm not trusting any SMS of 3 to 3498 as I don't think the returned results are going to be useful or even accurate because as it seems from other experiences here, it is using a lookup that has faulty or missing data and it is not doing a proper test that can be relied upon and therefore any success will probably lead to a false sense of security rather than real peace of mind. This may very well result in a number of deaths that should have otherwise been avoided. > The changes being discussed include potentially locking from the network all > phones that are deemed unable to properly > work with 000. I'd be happy with a phone that doesn't have VoLTE if the > provider had a SIP or email option for getting > voicemail and sent SMS notifications of "missed" calls. Also, my understanding of calling 000 for a test, you can do it, but you should stay on the line and tell them specifically that you were just testing; however, given the current debacle and timing, it is NOT recommended to do this test. This really is not good enough (NGE). Absolutely the test should be real time and any results from sending an SMS should be able to be relied upon; but neither seems like being worthwhile right now. Paying for a third party app, from the video, should not be necessary either; the Telcos should provide an app that does a proper test and which can be 100% relied upon. The numbers on the petition are still very, very low; so many more people need to be made aware of the issues. And I do believe, perhaps with too much faith, that any issues with turning off the 3G network MUST be fixed, perhaps they actually will ... despite the issues that have been raised. I am sure that the 3G network will be required for quite a while yet, unless Telstra can be forced to follow the same standards as the other two network providers in AU and all can be guaranteed that VoLTE is going to work just fine when it is most needed for emergency calls. And if the Optus report is still true about VoLTE only supporting on-net calls, then that is a total disaster -- calling between the 3 network providers should be transparent and not have to rely on fallback to 3G (which won't be available or 2G which is not now available). I too agree that, perhaps, a VoIP option might be suitable, but only if it is also guaranteed to work without any issues relating to STUN or other servers behaving badly or not responding when needed or at all. The whole issue of excessive e-waste is also a huge concern for mobiles now, as is the after market "value" for used devices that are still, useful or should still be useful. Related to this, I hope that Microsoft is forced to change their stance on Windows 11 support as that will cause either a huge number of unsupported computers running Windows 10 without updates from October, 2025 and perhaaps a relatively small number of unsupported machines running Winodws 11 with risk of not getting necessary updates if any at all. Consequently many business in particular, but also many private consumers will junk otherwise very good computers and that only means excessively high levels of e-waste. I've seen some very good older machines doing a reasonable job in business with extended usage well over 10 years -- none of those machines are going to be any good for Windows 11 going forward when they are otherwise doing exactly what they need to do quite effectively with Windows 10 at this time. Kind Regards Andrew McGlashan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEAREIAB0WIQTJAoMHtC6YydLfjUOoFmvLt+/i+wUCZv90UAAKCRCoFmvLt+/i +8C3AQCU4sQgBGDwEd0NBBhMpiTjwW3xKqCRI/MaFbGX93QwOQD9G4pmYfxC2R3/ neA/7qwFQEVvgKsxW+ooBxCsVYpUxfE= =dq3Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ luv-main mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
