Hello!

Giuseppe Penone has written on Saturday, 24 November, at 22:12:
>On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko <[email protected]>wrote:

>> I'm afraid they should be not ported but written from scratch on VALA
>> since almost whole lxpanel2 is written on VALA. :)

>AFAIK most of the open source developers out there use C and C++,
>so since the lxpanel requires a good number of volunteers/open source
>developers
>to add their applets I'm not sure VALA is the good choice...

    I should admit, VALA code is simpler than pure C due to built-in GTK
classes handling. But I still don't trust it as VALA code is only part of
libfm which generates a lot of warnings still, rest of code is written in
C and is free of warnings, with all relevant warnings enabled.
    And lxpanel2 requires pretty new version of VALA, released this year,
you cannot compile it on any older system.

>>   I don't know how to write on VALA and I'm afraid VALA code cannot be
>> debugged at all so I cannot help in that, I'm sorry.

>Personally I could also look at VALA but seems to me that there's not a
>good reference + complete tutorial like gtk and gtkmm have.

>I don't understand why VALA code cannot be debugged anyway... you mean
>there's the lack of tools such as nemiver in VALA?

    I was overreacted about "cannot be debugged", I'm sorry. VALA doesn't
generate binary code, it generates C code, like this:

        g_return_val_if_fail (_tmp18_ <= _tmp19_, NULL);
        _tmp20_ = start;
        _tmp21_ = end;
        _tmp22_ = start;
        _tmp23_ = g_strndup (((gchar*) self) + _tmp20_, (gsize) (_tmp21_ - 
_tmp22_));
        result = _tmp23_;

    There is a lot of variables and all variables have names _tmpXXX and
after compiler optimizations it is pretty inconvenient to debug. In any
case you will have something under gdb, yes, but you rarely will get all
the data and you have to find relevant vala code by hands. I hope PCMan
can tell us more on the subject.

    Cheers!
    Andriy.

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