On 04/24/2013 09:31 PM, Alexis López Zubieta wrote: > Hello everyone: > > I'm a student of informatics sciences in the University of Informatics > Sciences of Cuba. I belong to a free software project that aims to > provide to the cuban user a stable, functional and lightweight operative > system. We have been working on it for a while and recently we made our > 4th release. We use as desktop environment a fork of LXDE that we call > "Guano"
nice ! do you have a project page set up somewhere ? for sabotage linux, i pretty much also ended up forking lxde, however it's only a handful of bugfixes to this day. https://github.com/rofl0r/sabotage > but as we are a reduced team (6 members only) the balance > between productivity and time is crucial to us. In this aspect the > combination of C and Gtk don't show the best numbers, so we where depends on which numbers you look. when you look at memory consumption and speed, you won't get lower numbers than with C. however *GTK* is pretty bloated and depends on the horrible glib framework which inhibits robust programs: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674446 OTOH what the LXDE leaders currently have in mind is even worse: now they want to use C++ (!) and Qt (!). Qt is over 100 MB of compressed sources and takes hours to build, it's full of templates (yay duplicated code in binaries! yay debug builds which consume gigabytes of RAM to link!), OOP (dynamic allocation everywhere) and thus the next gen LXDE will turn into a giant hairball, basically the next KDE. btw, according to the wikipedia entry about razor-qt, that one already consumes more than 100MB of RAM to simply show the panel and a wallpaper... on sabotage linux i do the same with lxpanel, and mem consumption is 20MB for the entire system: http://i.imgur.com/Lz7Ov.png (early screenshot, here's a newer one: http://i.imgur.com/2k4Hvzh.png which doesnt show ram consumption tho) > studding the possibility of creating our on lightweight desktop > environment in order to improve the architecture of LXDE and make it > more scalable, functional and integrated. But is not wise to start > another project and duplicate efforts, instead of that we want to join > forces with you to create a fully functional and lightweight desktop > environment. unfortunately you won't achieve this with mainline LXDE, they're heading down the road of bloat nowadays. > > We have done some research and we have some ideas and workforce that > could be useful to the cause. In my opinion we must gather and plan the > next step in order to make this transition quick and clean. I propose to > start a new thread in both mailing lists and coordinate a live chat > meeting. if you want to chat join #sabotage @ irc.freenode.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Try New Relic Now & We'll Send You this Cool Shirt New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your browser, app, & servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_apr _______________________________________________ Lxde-list mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list
