Hello!
John Spencer has written on Thursday, 25 April, at 17:17:
>1) putting data and functions together is considered harmful
>http://research.scee.net/files/presentations/gcapaustralia09/Pitfalls_of_Object_Oriented_Programming_GCAP_09.pdf
>but it's perfectably doable in C so i don't see your point
>2) that C++ encourages code reusage and C doesn't, is a propaganda lie.
>the reality looks quite different, C++ adds a lot of hidden dependencies
>that make code reusage *harder*. think about inherited classes. in order
>to know how to use them, i have to know all about the involved classes.
>when some code i'm trying to debug passes around a base class object, i
>can not be sure which descendant of the class was originally
>instatiated. this makes debugging C++ code that was written by other
>people very hard.
[.......]
>in the end, even a dynamically linked binary that uses some form of
>templates will end much bigger than it's C counterpart.
>and bigger binary also means bigger RAM consumption since the binary has
>to be mapped into RAM.
[.......]
>> In order to avoid that the next LXDE become a giant air ball I propose a
>> monolithic architecture extensible
> > through modules and use lightweight threading instead of FORK.
>now you're talking about fork(), i was refering to forking lxde (the
>last release that works with gtk+2).
You should fork GTK2 itself first. Just because GTK2 will not stay
forever. Its development was ended long time ago. It's why LXDE require
another toolkit along with it. GTK3? Nobody has any intentions to work
with that bloated, unstable, and buggy toolkit. And talking about all of
problems above, they are raised a lot much more in GTK (especially GTK3)
than in Qt - GTK is really built around templates and code is duplicated
tens and hundreds times everywhere. So GTK3 is a way to nowhere.
You may fork LXDE as much as you want. And if nobody will make any
development on your fork, your system will be your personal fork and
nobody else will want it. And I believe nobody will join you. The LXDE
community is built around people who wants fast and light decent system
and we are the community, not bunch of developers for own development,
all LXDE users are the same as I am, as PCMan, as anyone else. Sure, I
understand, you may be too much ambitious and you want your own system.
Not a problem, just make it instead of telling that others doing that bad
way. A lot of people can just talk and offend others. Only few really are
doing something.
dixi
Andriy.
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