On Thursday 10 October 2013 09:34:13 Petr Vaněk wrote:
> On 10/10/13 7:22 AM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > On Friday 04 October 2013 17:03:41 ringo dekroon wrote:
> >> i am curious why dont you maintain not an own Window Manager that is QT
> >> based ?
> >> 
> >> eggwm is a qtbased window manager but its orphanned .. would not be a
> >> wise idea ?
> >> 
> >> why not fork it ..? and have a own window manager
> >> http://code.google.com/p/eggwm/
> > 
> > "EggWM is a window manager based on Qt 4 and Xlib."
> > 
> > This means one has to rewrite it for Qt 5. There is one type of
> 
> applications
> 
> > which has lots of work on going to Qt 5 and that are window managers.
> 
> I just
> 
> > had a look into the event handling code, it's obviously completely
> 
> XLib based
> 
> > and has non-English comments. So with my window manager developer
> 
> experience I
> 
> > would not recommend to fork the code base.
> 
> I have to agree with Martin.
> 
> We played with eggwm while ago in Razor with results (as I remeber it):
> 
>  - unfinished basic features
>  - native italian or spanish (I don't remember) comments and variables
>  - heavy X11 usage (remember wayland and similar approaches)
> 
> For me it would be great to use kwin one day - with kde5 frameworks and
> weak dependencies it can resolve many tasks for us. Of course it depends
> how (even if) openbox guys will adopt wayland too. Or if there will be
> something like standardized wayland client library with usecases like:
> "give me all windows on desktop 1", "maximize window #666"...
we talked about this during the last Plasma sprint. We expect that there is 
little interest from the other "large" desktop environments to standardize. 
After all Unity decided to have its own party and GNOME has an architecture 
with Desktop Shell and Window Manager in the same process.

We decided that we do not want to take the short path, but to draft proper 
Wayland protocol extensions for the communication between Plasma and KWin and 
try to standardize those. If that doesn't succeed it would still be a publicly 
available extension which everybody would be welcome to implement. Speaking of 
implementing: we will try to get as much as possible directly into QtWayland 
and if that's not possible into KWindowSystem - it's already full of KDE 
specific extensions to NetWM.

Cheers
Martin

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