Hello!
Stephan Sokolow has written on Wednesday, 6 November, at 20:33:
>On 13-11-06 07:19 PM, Sérgio Marques wrote:
>>> Other are self-explanatory but just "Computer" looks a bit ambiguous. I
>>> may be wrong of course, so any opinions and suggestions would be very
>>> appreciated. Oh, may be something like "Drives list" is better? In fact,
>>> that computer:// consists of mounts and volumes. The name "Computer" (or
>>> "My Computer") is how similar folder is named in Windows. I don't like
>>> that name but it was already there. :)
>> In fact "My Computer" is in Windows system
Not fully correct. In some versions of Windows it was "My Computer"
but in some it was just "Computer".
>> but wasn´t this the way it
>> used to be in pcmanfm?
Yes, it was, in most places, but see below.
>> My proposal is to stick with "My Computer". But if you choose
>> different no problem. I just need to understand context to do a proper
>> translation. And in this issue I´ve already understood it.
>In the name of all that is good and holy, PLEASE don't start adding that
>irritating, childish "My" prefix to things.
>I'd probably be willing to maintain my own patched PPA just to strip it
>back out.
I'm fully agree with you that "My" should go away and it's why I've
removed it from the places where it still was. No need to make a PPA. :)
But I still want suggestions on that list. Since it was gone while
quoted, I'll repeat myself:
Show in Places:
Home Directory
Desktop Folder
Applications
Trash can
File system root
"Computer" special folder
Network places
That is the checklist in one of pages of Preferences dialog. I wrote it
and it seems it needs some polishing. Please, comment strings there.
>>> I think "tweaks" isn't appropriate word here. If not "switches" then
>>> may be "options"? Or it would be ambiguous there?
>> Daniel Forsi already suggested:
>> <i>Commands below may include extra arguments if necessary.</i>
>> "Hint: you can add optional arguments to customize the following commands"
>> I prefer second. But i must say that your choice is better:
>> <i>Commands below may include extra options if necessary.</i>
>> I would stick on this one.
>As a native English speaker who's had an obsessive interest in computers
>since at least age 5, used DOS, every version of Windows since 3.1, and
>various Linux distros and BSDs, and coded in various languages, I can
>say with some authority that the terminology you want is either
>"options" or "switches".
>("Options" being the convention on Unixy OSes, "switches" being a DOS
>convention that seems to be fading in the face of a flood of
>cross-platform command-line tools like OptiPNG and UPX which follow
>Linux terminological conventions but then become popular on Windows.)
>"tweaks" refers to a related but different concept and "arguments"
>already has an existing meaning which would cause confusion if it were
>used to mean "options".
Exactly the case. Arguments will be added by PCManFM itself, and
those in question are exactly extra options.
Thank you very much for detailing that.
>>>> Maybe "Open folder from location entry" or "Open folder in this location
>>>> entry"
>>>> Is anyone English native speaker? The "Entered" here seem a bit strange.
>>> Oh, you are right, we need English native speaker's help...
>I actually think one potential trouble spot is using "Open folder" in
>that type of full sentence.
>I'd recommend using "Open the folder" in the tooltip to make it easier
>for the reader to parse.
>(Because "open" can also be an adjective, it takes extra thought to
>recognize that "Open folder" is being used as a verb and that it's short
>for "Open the folder" rather than as "the folder that's already open".)
>Also, "location entry" sounds strange and unfamiliar. What UI element is
>it referring to? I may be able to suggest a better term.
Well, there is an entry where you can type URI and then press 'Enter'
but also there is an alternate way: paste the URI there and press a button
next to that location entry, in case if you have where to copy the URI
from and cannot or don't want to use keyboard. The tooltip on that button
is the question.
>(eg. Is it the field at the top of the window where you can type a new
>path and press Enter to navigate? If so, the world of web browsers has
>already done a good enough job of teaching everyone to refer to that as
>"the address bar" that everyone was already calling it that in Windows
>Explorer back in the Windows XP days.)
It is not correct to use term "address" for that. Even web browsers
use term "location" (the L in URL stands for that). And since we can form
that location bar in two ways:
- text entry to type the path
- bar of buttons representing the path
we used the term "entry" in the first place.
>Finally, don't use "this location entry" unless you plan to render an
>arrow from the tooltip to the location entry. (Use something else like
>"the selected location entry" if it's an entry in a list or "the address
>bar" if it's the address bar.)
>I can provide a more concrete suggestion once I know what UI element
>you're referring to.
I hope I've detailed it enough to find both the text entry and the
button next to it in PCManFM main window.
Thank you very much!
With best regards.
Andriy.
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