On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Maria Gouskova <gousk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I had to do a bit of research just now to figure out what things used to
> look like vs. how they look now.
>
> By default, the first thing you see on a Mac now (this is 10.8 for sure
> but also 10.10, I think?  can't remember my office Mac's OS version):
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> The "Search Citation" field is hidden from view, where before it was open
> on first view. It still is on my not-yet-upgraded Linux machine.
>
> The "Formatting" options were hidden in the older view until a citation
> was selected. They are open by default now, but I think that's a little
> misleading since one should not want to or be able to format a citation
> when none are selected yet.
>
> The other misleading thing about the current GUI dialog is that the one
> field that's visible and looks like it could be typed in is the citation
> preview field.
>
> Maria
>

P.S. on the extra clicks issue--on Linux at least, and I think it used to
be that way in the previous Mac OS versions, one could get to the Search
field by hitting the Tab key. The new GUI requires a mouse click on the
Search tab.

Maria





>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 2:06 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller <sp...@lyx.org> wrote:
>
>> Am Dienstag, den 06.09.2016, 23:56 -0600 schrieb Joel Kulesza:
>> > In the meantime, I'm interested in any thoughts you have on my other
>> > points.
>>
>> As I wrote, I think it is important that the dialogs work on all
>> current screens, and in general, I think 800x600 is still a good
>> maximum for dialogs.
>>
>> As to scrollbars, I don't think this is a good idea. This is not usable
>> without the mouse (and I doubt it can be elegantly done with Qt).
>>
>> When I did the redesign, I really tried several options. It was _not_
>> possible to design a dialog of the proper size without using a
>> pane/tabbar or toolbox. I selected the latter, since it is the most
>> space-saving option and it does not introduce any extra-clicks.
>>
>> Of course any redesign is annoying since you have to get used to the
>> new UI, but we have to make the dialogs work for everybody.
>>
>> Any points I missed?
>>
>> Jürgen
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