Kenward Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 10:57:13PM +0000, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
>> Not sure if this is known (for some reason, I don't see the response
>> from John Levon to which you responded), but whereas your original
>> sequence 
> 
> (It was quoted in the msg.  I chopped out other parts above to show it
> more clearly...)

I thought as much -- what confused me is that his response was not among 
the postings I could find in the list (perhaps he responded by private 
mail).  Anyway, no big deal -- not the first time I've been confused, and 
won't be the last.  (In fact, won't be the last today.  :-)
> 
>> results in a setting CH in textrm, with the subscript inside the
>> textrm braces (apparently verboten in LaTeX), you get the same result
>> using mathrm (i.e., \mathrm{CH_4} rather than \textrm{CH_4}), and the
>> latter is apparently valid LaTeX.  So the next question, to which I
>> lack an answer, is whether there's a key binding/command in math mode
>> for mathrm.  
>> 
>> I'm also curious why C-m A-m m toggles between normal math font and 
>> textrm, rather than using mathrm.  Is this because the user might not
>> have mathrm (lack of the right AMS package or something)?

Bad guess on my part.  I looked it up:  \mathrm, \mathit etc. are part of 
the standard LaTeX distribution.

> Talk about (my own) ignorance(!)...  I just tried your suggested
> \mathrm{} and the whole issue of "normal looking" letters is gone... 
> :-)))) 
> 
> Getting non-italicized letters always seemed to be a pain, and
> chemical symbols are not italicized.  Since I come into LyX and LaTeX
> as a former Windows/OS2 chemist, knowing how to accomplish what
> probably seems like simple tasks to others has always been a steep
> curve for me. 

Same is true for me, and probably for a lot of us.

> Is this the sort of thing Lamport's book would clarify??

Could be -- not sure if the "no subscripts in textrm" thing is in there.  
However, for what it's worth, that's not where I learned about \mathrm.  
I'm pretty sure I picked it up from this group, or from some other help 
source on the Internet.

FYI, if you haven't checked the math panel yet, it's a handy way to 
specify a font within math mode (including roman, which gets you mathrm).  
Might not be as convenient for someone who is keyboard-oriented.  Another 
possibility is to create a key binding to get into mathrm.

But I'm still a bit confused as to why one would want to toggle into 
textrm, rather than mathrm, when in math mode.
> 
> Thanks very much, Paul!

Happy to pay the favor forward.
> 
> 
> Kenward



-- Paul

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