On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:02:34 -0600
"Paul Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Feb 19, 2008 1:38 PM, Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 19 February 2008 02:01, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> > > Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> > > > Interestingly, it appears that in order to upgrade to qt 2.2.3, I would
> > > > need to upgrade my glibc (because of rtld(GNU_HASH)). I'm sorry, but
> > > > that's just too much to expect from a user.
> > >
> > > No offense intended Steve but you are obviously confused with version
> > > numbers etc.
> >
> > Of course offense was intended. A typo, or even a series of like typos, does
> > not confusion make.
> >
> > > I even suspect that you didn't even fully read the README
> > > and INSTALL that come with the source.
> >
> > Quite a leap of logic.
> >
> > > As an end-user, either you wait
> > > for your distro to come with a binary package or you do the required
> > > step by step things you need to do in order to compile LyX.
> >
> > That's exactly my point. When the step by step implies messing with the very
> > vitals of your 1.5 year old OS, there's something very wrong with the step
> > by step.
> >

and if I recall correctly apart from the no unicode support of xforms, the
reason for qt4, besides being mature enough not to stick with qt3, was license
support to allow easy porting of lyx to windows and mac.

> Well, I see why people are upset with your tone now.
> 
> Once we get to the point of compiling software, expecting instructions
> to be 'idiot proof' is a mistake. The GNU software build process is
> fairly widespread and pretty easy to use, but it is not intended for
> people who aren't willing/able to experiment and learn.
> 
> Rebuilding QT is not messing with "The very vitals" of an operating
> system.  At worst, it is mettling with an outer part of the graphical
> interface.
> 
> But you can/should protect yourself by leaving your "operating system"
> untouched.  If you are re-building QT from source, what you do is set
> the prefix to install into a nonstandard place, say
> /home/steve/packages/qt and then when you build LyX, you tell it to
> use that version of QT.  And in the configure statement for LyX, you
> set the prefix on LyX to install into /home/steve/packages/, so it
> does not affect the "operating system" even in the littlest bit.  This
> can all be installed as a non root user and it never affects anyone.
> 
> 
> > > Many users
> > > compile LyX without problems.
> >
> > That's relevent why?
> 
> That is supposed to give you the confidence to feel that, if you
> understood what was going on in the build process, you would succeed.
> If you pay attention to the advice people give you, you can make it
> work.
> 

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