It needs more than just remapping the signals; the required upper two address 
lines are not available on the sockets so you either need to add logic to 
recreate them or modify the main board.

m
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gregory McGill 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 1:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [M100] 8K RAM Chip


  thanks! It seems like we should be able to use the 8x8 chip from the 102 with 
some kludging of lines.. they are pretty close..


  Greg


  On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:08 AM, Brian White <[email protected]> wrote:

    There are at least a few different "build your own ram upgrade" articles on 
club100 and other archives of old forum posts, and in magazines too I think but 
those are hard to search.


    Here's one that is not one of the old original ones I was thinking of, but 
looks ok.


    http://digilander.libero.it/rar2k/TRS80/Memory24k.html



    I have some NEC modules that work that I assume must have originally been 
meant for nec 8201a. They are a little pcb with a single ram chip and an 
additional chip probably a decoder of some sort to consume 4 chip-enable lines. 
I could take some photos of it and maybe it's circuit could be reverse 
engineered from that.


    https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZQle2id7AMWdX2bC3



    Another option is QUAD, which is a thing that installs in the bus socket 
and displaces the internal ram with it's own full 32K, plus 3 more banks of 32K 
that you can switch between. Although you can't get a quad right now. Steven 
Adolph is testing his latest revision of the design and it's in between right 
now. He found problems with the old version and so removed it from oshpark, and 
th new version is not yet verified.


    But assuming that comes along sooner or later, that would upgrade you to 
32K the same as if you had installed all 4 possible modules inside.


    -- 
    bkw






    On Wed, Mar 14, 2018, 11:14 AM Gregory McGill <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      ok is there a source for the 100 chips? or a pcb?


      Greg


      On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 12:02 AM, Fugu ME100 <[email protected]> wrote:

        Just the 102,  it uses a standard pin out. The 100 uses a special RAM 
module.


        From: M100 <[email protected]> on behalf of Gregory 
McGill <[email protected]>
        Reply-To: <[email protected]>
        Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 10:58 PM
        To: <[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: [M100] 8K RAM Chip



          oh wait these are 32x8 :)  are these ones on ebay for the 100 or 102? 
or both? 


          Greg


          On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:33 PM, Gregory McGill 
<[email protected]> wrote:

            if you have the pinouts I have a bunch of 8x8 srams around for TI99 
projects 


            Greg


            On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Ken Pettit <[email protected]> 
wrote:

              Ahh, I see now the original email stated 102.  So yeah, those 
will work.

              Ken 


              On 3/9/18 6:09 PM, Fugu ME100 wrote:

                More if it was R/S :)

                This is the one
                
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-TOSHIBA-TC5565PL-15-64K-8Kx8-SRAM-CMOS-STATIC-RA
                
M-5V-150NS-28-PIN-PDIP/321974484773?hash=item4af72cbf25:g:ldEAAOSwGotWlWd9
                you mean?



                On 9/3/18, 6:07 PM, "M100 on behalf of Peter Vollan"
                <[email protected] on behalf of 
[email protected]>
                wrote:


                  Wow, a quick check reveals a 8kX8 SRAM on ebay for $3. Didn't 
those
                  "memory modules" cost about $30?


                  On 9 March 2018 at 17:57, Chris Kmiec <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                    Great, I'll go looking on the intrawebs :)

                    You don't happen to have another REX, do you? :)

                    Chris

                    On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:01 PM, Fugu ME100 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                      The chips are available they are standard 8Kx8 SRAM.  
Should be able to
                      find some on line.

                      Unfortunately the QUAD is only for the Model 100, it will 
not fit the
                      102.

                      Congratulations on your new addition :)

                      From: M100 <[email protected]> on behalf 
of Chris Kmiec
                      <[email protected]>
                      Reply-To: <[email protected]>
                      Date: Friday, March 9, 2018 at 4:33 PM
                      To: <[email protected]>
                      Subject: [M100] 8K RAM Chip

                      Are these available anywhere, or do I have to find a 
donor system? Just
                      got a like-new 102, but no memory expansion.

                      I'm assuming QUAD is no longer being made/sold?

                      Thanks!















    On Mar 14, 2018 11:14 AM, "Gregory McGill" <[email protected]> wrote:

      ok is there a source for the 100 chips? or a pcb?


      Greg


      On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 12:02 AM, Fugu ME100 <[email protected]> wrote:

        Just the 102,  it uses a standard pin out. The 100 uses a special RAM 
module.


        From: M100 <[email protected]> on behalf of Gregory 
McGill <[email protected]>
        Reply-To: <[email protected]>
        Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 10:58 PM
        To: <[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: [M100] 8K RAM Chip



          oh wait these are 32x8 :)  are these ones on ebay for the 100 or 102? 
or both? 


          Greg


          On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:33 PM, Gregory McGill 
<[email protected]> wrote:

            if you have the pinouts I have a bunch of 8x8 srams around for TI99 
projects 


            Greg


            On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Ken Pettit <[email protected]> 
wrote:

              Ahh, I see now the original email stated 102.  So yeah, those 
will work.

              Ken 


              On 3/9/18 6:09 PM, Fugu ME100 wrote:

                More if it was R/S :)

                This is the one
                
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-TOSHIBA-TC5565PL-15-64K-8Kx8-SRAM-CMOS-STATIC-RA
                
M-5V-150NS-28-PIN-PDIP/321974484773?hash=item4af72cbf25:g:ldEAAOSwGotWlWd9
                you mean?



                On 9/3/18, 6:07 PM, "M100 on behalf of Peter Vollan"
                <[email protected] on behalf of 
[email protected]>
                wrote:


                  Wow, a quick check reveals a 8kX8 SRAM on ebay for $3. Didn't 
those
                  "memory modules" cost about $30?


                  On 9 March 2018 at 17:57, Chris Kmiec <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                    Great, I'll go looking on the intrawebs :)

                    You don't happen to have another REX, do you? :)

                    Chris

                    On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:01 PM, Fugu ME100 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                      The chips are available they are standard 8Kx8 SRAM.  
Should be able to
                      find some on line.

                      Unfortunately the QUAD is only for the Model 100, it will 
not fit the
                      102.

                      Congratulations on your new addition :)

                      From: M100 <[email protected]> on behalf 
of Chris Kmiec
                      <[email protected]>
                      Reply-To: <[email protected]>
                      Date: Friday, March 9, 2018 at 4:33 PM
                      To: <[email protected]>
                      Subject: [M100] 8K RAM Chip

                      Are these available anywhere, or do I have to find a 
donor system? Just
                      got a like-new 102, but no memory expansion.

                      I'm assuming QUAD is no longer being made/sold?

                      Thanks!
















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