Sorry for the inactivity. I fell off of a ladder at work and broke my
ankle. I haven't been able to circle back around and catch up to the
developments in this thread.

I really like the idea of using a teensy instead of the Mega! There is a
lot more power there for doing things like an OLED display and networking
capabilities. I also really love the idea of having a "TPDD server" box
that multiple M100s (or PCs with serial ports) can connect to!

I really want to try out the Teensy's hardware flow control at some point.
If I recall, there are some timing issues with SD2TPDD if it runs at 19200
baud and you have too much debug info active. I think I have a Teensy 3.2
hiding in my parts drawer somewhere...

I looked over the TpddTool.py code and can't figure out why it won't work
with SD2TPDD. It's possible that I forgot to send the correct "normal
return" for something and it dislikes that. If I can, I'll try to dig into
the issue. I can't get to my workbench at the moment with my broken ankle.

An idea that I have been kicking around in my head is to modify SD2TPDD to
"WiFi2TPDD" using an ESP32 as the host. The device has enough non-volatile
storage to hold the TS-DOS image, and configuration could be done by
writing a config file to the device using TS-DOS. The config file would
tell it which SSID to connect to, the password, and a list of FTP servers
to have show up in the root directory presented to TS-DOS.



On Sun, Sep 2, 2018, 11:43 Brian White <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well it turns out this works fine with TS-DOS, it just doesn't work with
> TpddTool.py!
> It's strange:
> * TS-DOS works with a real TPDD2  (obviously)
> * TpddTool.py works with a real TPDD2
> * TS-DOS works with SD2TPDD
> * TpddTool.py does not work with SD2TPDD
>
> ??? whatever I'll figure t out sooner or later. Just wanted to correct me
> saying it wasn't working before. Up to now I'd just been using TpddTool.py
> on the same laptop. But just now trying TS-DOS, it works fine!
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:49 AM Brian White <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I just got your arduino code working on a Teensy 3.6, using the built-in
>> card reader, SdFatSdioEX, hardware flow control, and even writing
>> status/progress messages out to a little oled screen.
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/DaR7pHERsgNrGs718
>>
>> So far, with the oled stuff enabled I can clock down to 4mhz and it's
>> still fast enough that TpddTool.py doesn't time out. Haven't tried on a
>> M100 yet. Maybe without the oled or usb serial it can even manage 2mhz.
>>
>> Using other code experimenting with sleep calls, I was able to get it to
>> idle at 10ma, and wake itself up from the serial rx1 pin, then go back to
>> sleep. In that code I was drawing only about 28ma while writing, then back
>> down to 10-11ma. That's including the teensy providing the 3.3v to power
>> the rs232 tranceiver.
>>
>> Eventually I want to make use of the teeny's built in rtc too. Should be
>> easy enough to have the teensy recognize a special file name and feed back
>> data from the rtc in place of a file.
>>
>> https://github.com/aljex/SD2TPDD/tree/bkw_teensy36
>>
>> It's not working too well yet, but it's running and at least partially
>> working.
>>
>> TPDD-Tool>copy TEST3.DO 0:TEST3.DO
>> Copy successful
>> TPDD-Tool>dir 0:
>> TEST2 .DO 655
>> TEST1 .DO 12
>> 163840 bytes free
>>
>> TPDD-Tool>
>>
>> This is awesome! (I mean, a great start) Thank you!
>>
>> --
>>
>> bkw
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 4:31 PM c646581 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a project that uses an Arduino Mega to emulate a TPDD.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/TangentDelta/SD2TPDD
>>>
>>> I have plans to eventually sell easy-to-use shields that provide the
>>> RS232 level shifting and SD card interface.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 16:02 Brian White <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A tpdd emulated in low level basic hardware in line with the tpdd
>>>> itself really appeals to me.
>>>>
>>>> I would love to try to make it work on a tinyduino, or maybe a gotek.
>>>> Tinyduino may not seem "basic" being so small and modern, but it's a
>>>> microcontroller not a PC. It doesn't run linux and systemd and bash and
>>>> getty and python and a tcp stack and ssl and X and gnome etc etc etc.
>>>>
>>>> The fact that an entire pc fits in a tiny space and uses no power and
>>>> costs $5 today thanks to the plain advancement over the passage of time, is
>>>> sort of beside the point. Sure it's practical, but it's not *elegant*, in
>>>> some intangible abstract mental way.
>>>>
>>>> You could run dlplus or laddie from an init script on an Omega2 and
>>>> stuff the entire thing inside of a db25 connector shell, and probably even
>>>> scavenge enough power right from the usb port with charge pumps, and the
>>>> entire thing would be small and cheap and relatively easy to do, since it's
>>>> just sticking a few existing things together like legos. Outwardly this
>>>> makes all the sense in the world. But it's just such a brute-force kind of
>>>> solution. I'd rather spend all kinds of time and effort to do the same
>>>> thing with a controller in place of the computer.
>>>>
>>>> Though, you can sure get a lot more functionality out of a computer,
>>>> like that virtual modem in mcomm. And the computer is infinitely more
>>>> end-user hackable. It would be neat to play with hacking together some sort
>>>> of front-end dispatcher script, kind of like inetd for serial or I guess
>>>> that would just be an amped-up getty, maybe even with an interactive menu
>>>> that you can access via TELCOM, and the front end runs a tpdd server or a
>>>> dos injector or ssh client or lynx or virtual modem or something else and
>>>> hooks it to the tty. It could stay in the loop monitoring the tty for
>>>> special escape commands to break out into a command mode just like modems,
>>>> telnet, ssh, cu etc all do, so you could always switch between functions
>>>> from the M100 even after starting one.
>>>>
>>>> gahh ideas are sure easy to throw around :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> bkw
>>
>
>
> --
> bkw
>

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