Awesome! Glad to hear it! There was a time I was having a conversation with Kurt about this unit and we were fantasizing about being able to duplicate the guts of the ROM expansion unit as there's probably quite a few folks out there that might find it useful to the ROM-based Sardine for their M100/T102/NEC. But then Kurt identified that custom PAL chip (Altera EP320FC), and the fantasy died..
Of course a REX# based solution that could support the Sardine ROM switching method would put an end to the discussion pretty quickly. On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 2:33 PM Brian K. White <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you, that thread is interesting. From reading that, it sure looks > like what I have is a SAFE configured for Model 102. > > It has both 28 and 40 pin headers, and mine the 40 pin is unpopulated > and the 28 pin has a ribbon cable going to the option rom socket, and > there is a hand-written sticker that says M102. So probably the same PCB > can be configured for either Model 100 or 102, and maybe uses the > 40-pin header and the system bus for 100. > > ... > > That worked! Thank you! > > I saved that basic program as SAFE.DO with dos line-endings, unwrapped > the long lines, used tpdd to copy to the 102 and load in basic. > > And used it to select rom 5, which loaded not only Sardine but also > added a ROMPAK util to the main menu, just like you said. > > I made a SINIT.DO which is the same as SAFE.DO but hardcoded to jump to > ROM # 5, and you can use that with the bootstrap option in dlplus to go > from cold-start in the least steps. > > I stuck copies of SAFE.DO, SAFE.BA, SINIT.DO in that same google drive > folder until I get a wiki page going. > > Very nice, thanks again! > > And thank you Paul Globman for including that program in a discussion > post, because I don't see it anywhere else. > Club100.org has an entire page dedicated just to Paul Globman stuff, and > it's not there, nor is there any SAFE stuff on the docs library page. > > -- > bkw > > On 5/2/21 3:08 PM, Gary Weber wrote: > > Hi Brian, > > > > Yep that is the same type of PG Designs ROM Expansion unit that I have > > for the NEC, albeit the NEC version has regular sockets for all 8 > > slots of course. > > > > The whole selection mechanism for which ROM you're using has to be > > done through a software-based selector. For the NEC I have some > > custom software that was written ages ago. But once I select the > > Sardine rom #1 (which is in socket 5), I end up in a special version > > of T-Word, completely separate from the UR-2. (I don't even have a > > UR-2 ROM installed in mine.) > > > > There's a file in the M100SIG library 08 that might yield some results > > for you: > > > https://web8201.net/files/LIBRARY_web8201/M100SIG/Lib-08-Tech-Programming/ROMSW1.TXT > > < > https://web8201.net/files/LIBRARY_web8201/M100SIG/Lib-08-Tech-Programming/ROMSW1.TXT > > > > > > Hoping you can type in the "ROM.BA <http://ROM.BA>" represented there > > and select ROM #5 and the same will happen for you. > > > > Interestingly enough once that first Sardine is loading, it will load > > in a "ROMPAK" loader from the Sardine ROM which is yet another ROM > > selector program. It's kind of putting the cart before the horse > > though as to even get ROMPAK in memory you have to already have the > > means of selecting the correct ROM to begin with. ;-) > > > > Gary > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 11:17 AM Brian K. White <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > On 5/2/21 5:39 AM, Gary Weber wrote: > > > Sorry I never read and responded to the inquiry and also sorry to > > > perform a necro-rez on this thread. > > > > > > I'm willing to bet those ROM images for Sardine that you have, > > Brian, > > > are the same (or very similar) to the ones available for the > > Booster Pak > > > that are posted up on http://www.club100.org/library/librom.html > > <http://www.club100.org/library/librom.html> > > > <http://www.club100.org/library/librom.html > > <http://www.club100.org/library/librom.html>>: > > > image.png > > > > > > Anyway, if you "invoke" the #1 ROM you'll be in the T-Word word > > > processing application, and a normal GRPH-F that you would press > > when in > > > the editor to invoke a disk-based spell check will instead > > reference the > > > dictionary represented across all the ROMs. > > > > > > If you do (or did) extract those ROMs from inside your PG Designs > > > expansion unit I'll be interested in comparing them to the ones > > up on > > > Club 100. > > > > > > Gary. > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 1:22 AM Brian K. White > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> > wrote: > > > > > > On 10/29/20 3:15 AM, Jim Anderson wrote: > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> I have here a PG Design ROM expansion that fits T102. > > > >> > > > >> The unit has 4 molex sockets with the 100/200 pinout to > take > > > standard > > > >> option roms, and 4 regular dip sockets with apparently > > regular > > > 27C256 > > > >> pinout. > > > >> > > > >> All 4 regular sockets are filled with this Sardine Plus, > > which > > > look like > > > > > > > > I'm a bit behind on this, but I don't see any messages to > > this > > > effect - did you get this going? Ever since I heard of this > > all-ROM > > > version of Sardine, I have thought about how awesome it > > would be if > > > it were somehow possible to modify the UR-2 that's meant to > work > > > with this module to somehow access these four ROM images in > > a REX... > > > so you'd have the full dictionary available without having a > > TPDD > > > device connected. > > > > > > > > > I haven't played with it. But I'll pull the roms and post them. > > > > > > -- > > > bkw > > > > > > > I have dumped those Sardine Plus roms. > > > > Pics: > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/5y9FpfrhPKrqkPXRA > > <https://photos.app.goo.gl/5y9FpfrhPKrqkPXRA> > > > > Roms: > > > https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UPCuC6I5oZGnzpV6qTcDnvxOs9B6zq26 > > < > https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UPCuC6I5oZGnzpV6qTcDnvxOs9B6zq26> > > > > > > I haven't figured out how to activate this rom expansion at all. > > > > Like I said in the original post, "CALL 63012" or "CALL 62013,1" > > doesn't > > do anything. It just says "OK" but there's no new menu entries. > > > > But if I take the UR2 rom out of the expander and put it directly > > into > > the 102, that works normally. > > > > The lot came with a Traveling Software box and manuals for UR2 and > > all > > the apps in the UR2, and a manual for Sardine. None of the manuals > > says > > anything about this expansion. The box just has a sticker that says > > tandy 100 and version 2.06 and a serial number and a RS catalog > > number > > (90-0409). > > > > The Sardine manual does mention a ROM version of Sardine, but, > > it's not > > this. It's talking about the normal option rom for the app with the > > dictionary on disk. > > > > So from all that, I'm guessing that the UR2 rom is a standard one, > > not > > special somehow to use the expander, and the expander probably > > requires > > software to drive it which I don't have. > > > > The UR2 rom is different from the one on club100/bitchin100, but > > only by > > being version 2.06 instead of 2.12. > > > > -- > > bkw > > > >
