Thank you, that thread is interesting. From reading that, it sure looks
like what I have is a SAFE configured for Model 102.
It has both 28 and 40 pin headers, and mine the 40 pin is unpopulated
and the 28 pin has a ribbon cable going to the option rom socket, and
there is a hand-written sticker that says M102. So probably the same PCB
can be configured for either Model 100 or 102, and maybe uses the
40-pin header and the system bus for 100.
...
That worked! Thank you!
I saved that basic program as SAFE.DO with dos line-endings, unwrapped
the long lines, used tpdd to copy to the 102 and load in basic.
And used it to select rom 5, which loaded not only Sardine but also
added a ROMPAK util to the main menu, just like you said.
I made a SINIT.DO which is the same as SAFE.DO but hardcoded to jump to
ROM # 5, and you can use that with the bootstrap option in dlplus to go
from cold-start in the least steps.
I stuck copies of SAFE.DO, SAFE.BA, SINIT.DO in that same google drive
folder until I get a wiki page going.
Very nice, thanks again!
And thank you Paul Globman for including that program in a discussion
post, because I don't see it anywhere else.
Club100.org has an entire page dedicated just to Paul Globman stuff, and
it's not there, nor is there any SAFE stuff on the docs library page.
--
bkw
On 5/2/21 3:08 PM, Gary Weber wrote:
Hi Brian,
Yep that is the same type of PG Designs ROM Expansion unit that I have
for the NEC, albeit the NEC version has regular sockets for all 8
slots of course.
The whole selection mechanism for which ROM you're using has to be
done through a software-based selector. For the NEC I have some
custom software that was written ages ago. But once I select the
Sardine rom #1 (which is in socket 5), I end up in a special version
of T-Word, completely separate from the UR-2. (I don't even have a
UR-2 ROM installed in mine.)
There's a file in the M100SIG library 08 that might yield some results
for you:
https://web8201.net/files/LIBRARY_web8201/M100SIG/Lib-08-Tech-Programming/ROMSW1.TXT
<https://web8201.net/files/LIBRARY_web8201/M100SIG/Lib-08-Tech-Programming/ROMSW1.TXT>
Hoping you can type in the "ROM.BA <http://ROM.BA>" represented there
and select ROM #5 and the same will happen for you.
Interestingly enough once that first Sardine is loading, it will load
in a "ROMPAK" loader from the Sardine ROM which is yet another ROM
selector program. It's kind of putting the cart before the horse
though as to even get ROMPAK in memory you have to already have the
means of selecting the correct ROM to begin with. ;-)
Gary
On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 11:17 AM Brian K. White <b.kenyo...@gmail.com
<mailto:b.kenyo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 5/2/21 5:39 AM, Gary Weber wrote:
> Sorry I never read and responded to the inquiry and also sorry to
> perform a necro-rez on this thread.
>
> I'm willing to bet those ROM images for Sardine that you have,
Brian,
> are the same (or very similar) to the ones available for the
Booster Pak
> that are posted up on http://www.club100.org/library/librom.html
<http://www.club100.org/library/librom.html>
> <http://www.club100.org/library/librom.html
<http://www.club100.org/library/librom.html>>:
> image.png
>
> Anyway, if you "invoke" the #1 ROM you'll be in the T-Word word
> processing application, and a normal GRPH-F that you would press
when in
> the editor to invoke a disk-based spell check will instead
reference the
> dictionary represented across all the ROMs.
>
> If you do (or did) extract those ROMs from inside your PG Designs
> expansion unit I'll be interested in comparing them to the ones
up on
> Club 100.
>
> Gary.
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 1:22 AM Brian K. White
<b.kenyo...@gmail.com <mailto:b.kenyo...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:b.kenyo...@gmail.com <mailto:b.kenyo...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> On 10/29/20 3:15 AM, Jim Anderson wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> I have here a PG Design ROM expansion that fits T102.
> >>
> >> The unit has 4 molex sockets with the 100/200 pinout to take
> standard
> >> option roms, and 4 regular dip sockets with apparently
regular
> 27C256
> >> pinout.
> >>
> >> All 4 regular sockets are filled with this Sardine Plus,
which
> look like
> >
> > I'm a bit behind on this, but I don't see any messages to
this
> effect - did you get this going? Ever since I heard of this
all-ROM
> version of Sardine, I have thought about how awesome it
would be if
> it were somehow possible to modify the UR-2 that's meant to work
> with this module to somehow access these four ROM images in
a REX...
> so you'd have the full dictionary available without having a
TPDD
> device connected.
>
>
> I haven't played with it. But I'll pull the roms and post them.
>
> --
> bkw
>
I have dumped those Sardine Plus roms.
Pics:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/5y9FpfrhPKrqkPXRA
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/5y9FpfrhPKrqkPXRA>
Roms:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UPCuC6I5oZGnzpV6qTcDnvxOs9B6zq26
<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UPCuC6I5oZGnzpV6qTcDnvxOs9B6zq26>
I haven't figured out how to activate this rom expansion at all.
Like I said in the original post, "CALL 63012" or "CALL 62013,1"
doesn't
do anything. It just says "OK" but there's no new menu entries.
But if I take the UR2 rom out of the expander and put it directly
into
the 102, that works normally.
The lot came with a Traveling Software box and manuals for UR2 and
all
the apps in the UR2, and a manual for Sardine. None of the manuals
says
anything about this expansion. The box just has a sticker that says
tandy 100 and version 2.06 and a serial number and a RS catalog
number
(90-0409).
The Sardine manual does mention a ROM version of Sardine, but,
it's not
this. It's talking about the normal option rom for the app with the
dictionary on disk.
So from all that, I'm guessing that the UR2 rom is a standard one,
not
special somehow to use the expander, and the expander probably
requires
software to drive it which I don't have.
The UR2 rom is different from the one on club100/bitchin100, but
only by
being version 2.06 instead of 2.12.
--
bkw
