You don't really have to reinstall ts-dos. You can keep a copy of dos100.co in ram and run it with a small basic file that has a clear statement in it. This just consumes a lot of ram so it's usually not advised. The .ba is only one or two lines, but you end up with 2 copies of ts-dos in ram, one in the filesysyem in the form of the .co file, and one in high memory that is actually executed. That's about 10 to 12k out of only 29 or so.
Or tsload can load it from disk on the fly similar to what ultimate rom 2 does. There are also a bunch of different utils of varying quality in the m100sig and on club100 that try to help manage machine language apps and dosses in particular by loading and unloading them. Copying them out of high memory and removing any other bits like hooks elsewhere, and remembering what they were and being able to put them all back later. What you really want is ts-dos in rom, and if you want to use any other rom like multiplan, then you really want a rex# so you can switch between multiple roms at will. bkw On Tue, Feb 14, 2023, 10:01 PM Comcast <[email protected]> wrote: > Update for everyone on my conflict issue. > > > > I can now at least uninstall TS-DOS from high memory using the clear > 256,maxmem command. Once I do that multiplan runs fine. > > > > The downside is then I have to re install TS-DOS, which takes a bit of > time. But at least I don’t have to remove my ROM and no cold restart so no > files lost. > > > > Next thing I want to try is one of the other disk manager programs to see > if one doesn’t conflict. I just need to figure out how to load those vs the > current SD card setup to load TS-DOS > > > > mike > > > > *From: *M100 <[email protected]> on behalf of < > [email protected]> > *Reply-To: *<[email protected]> > *Date: *Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 4:03 PM > *To: *<[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: [M100] Conflict with Backpack SD drive > > > > Look on the SD card that came in the Backpack, The user’s manual is on > there and has all the directions, all of the various TSDOS clients are > already installed on the card too. On Github: > https://github.com/Jeff-Birt/Backpack/tree/main/BPD%2B%20Files there are > three main folders: Documentation, Firmware and SD Card. The ReadMe in each > describe what the files are. > > > > Jeff Birt > > > > *From:* M100 <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Comcast > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2023 3:36 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Conflict with Backpack SD drive > > > > Thanks Jeff > > > > Can you advise where I can find tenet on your GitHub site as well as > instructions for what I need to change on the SD card to use this vs > DOS100.co > > > > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Feb 14, 2023, at 10:12 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > Talking to friend who created Backpack and he suggested trying Teeny.co as > it does not hook into anything. You could use the CLI to change directories > if needed. Let us know if it works. > > > > Jeff Birt > > > > *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2023 8:27 AM > *To:* '[email protected]' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* RE: [M100] Conflict with Backpack SD drive > > > > I don’t know if they will behave differently or not. It would not hurt > anything to try. > > > > Jeff > > > > *From:* M100 <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Comcast > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2023 8:02 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Conflict with Backpack SD drive > > > > Thanks, will do! > > > > Did you see my note/question on if the other (non TS-DOS) disk managers > listed in your manual might also be worth trying? > > > > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Feb 14, 2023, at 7:56 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > The bootstrap program is just a bit of BASIC that loads TSDOS, it does > nothing else and does not stay resident/running so there is nothing to > uninstall. > > It might be that part of TS-DOS is being installed in high memory and this > is conflicting with Multiplan? Go to: > http://club100.org/library/libdoc.html , look on the right center of > page and download TSDOS.PDF ‘The Best On’. There are a lot of TSDOS tips > and tricks in there including how to uninstall it. > > > > Jeff Birt > > > > *From:* M100 <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Comcast > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2023 7:28 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Cc:* M100 <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Conflict with Backpack SD drive > > > > Thanks Jeff, > > > > I tried that - nope > > > > Do the other disk manager softwares you speak of install differently, > worth trying? > > > > What is the method to “uninstall” the bootstrap? Couldn’t find that > anywhere, so just did a cold reset > > > > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Feb 14, 2023, at 7:22 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > I’m just guessing here but suspect that TS-DOS is hooking into some of the > same resources that Multiplan tries to hook into. You might try the ‘DOS > OFF’ button before trying to run Multiplan. > > > > Jeff Birt > > > > *From:* M100 <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Comcast > *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2023 11:15 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Cc:* M100 <[email protected]> > *Subject:* [M100] Conflict with Backpack SD drive > > > > All, just when I thought I was over my challenges with my MS multiplan ROM. > > > > As was explained to me in great detail (thanks you!) that this ROM does > have some atypical characteristics, like forcing a cold reset upon install > or removal. > > > > I was excited to just purchase and receive one of the backpack SD card > units that simulates a TPDD. IT works great but…. > > > > Here is where I need help from the experts, something about its bootstrap > installation of TS-DOS, which By the way I cannot seem to find any > instruction, manual or otherwise on how to uninstall this bootstrap! But > regardless, it does something in RAM that now conflicts with my multiplan > ROM ☹ > > > > Multiplan will not run if the TS-DOS is installed per the instructions for > the backpack, if I cold reset, then multiplan will run fine, but as soon as > I install the SD card bootstrap, when I enter multiplan it just returns me > to the menu > > > > Thanks in advance for any assistance, I am hoping I can identify the > conflict and load the TS-DOS in a different location ?!? > > > > Model 102 BTW > > > > mike > >
