John,

You have described the issues and the resulting frustration quite
accurately, and in the most entertaining method I've witnessed to date.
Bravo!

Gary

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 4:45 PM John R. Hogerhuis <jho...@pobox.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 3:29 PM <lloydel...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Regarding Jeff’s comment:  “TSDOS does its own thing, like John says, and
>> really makes a mess of it.”:
>>
>>
>>
>> Could it be that TSDOS got away with it due to inherent delays in reading
>> data from a disk?   Reading from an SD card should be much faster and not
>> have those delays.    Just speculating…
>>
>>
>>
>
> No.. TS-DOS never got away with it, really.
>
> The dysfunction created is insidious. The immediate thing the user may see
> is that the file inloaded is corrupted. Oh well, you mess around and try
> again. Maybe you fix the extension. Maybe you don't. The dinner bell
> interrupts you.
>
> You pick it up later. But little do you realize the stage is set for
> crash/hang/data loss. At this point the RAM in general is corrupted with
> weird effects and eventually you will have to "cold start" to fully recover.
>
> The disconnect will result in making up theories of what happened.
> Sunspots. Some new CO you used the other day. Maybe an errant poke in Joe's
> program that you were testing for him. Maybe you blame Microsoft.
>
> So I suspect TS-DOS + Desklink avoided blame because users don't always
> know when or why exactly things go wrong.
>
> Or, it got away with it because fundamentally, all said and done, it's
> truly the user's fault for not following the official naming conventions
> (which they may or may not understand. Tokenization? Plain text? BASIC
> ASCII? Tokenized BASIC? Inload? etc).
>
> Tap the machine 3 times, proclaim "no whammies!," sacrifice a chicken and
> move on.
>
> -- John.
>

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