On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 2:58 PM Joshua O'Keefe <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Jun 19, 2026, at 12:10 PM, John R. Hogerhuis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Every time I get burned by SAAS my tendency is to assert more control.
>
>
> I agree with this so hard I think I have a bruise (and I've been in the
> SaaS business before!)
>
> I currently run my entire mail infrastructure with a tiny $1/mo container
> running nothing but Postfix as the SMTP front end — so that traffic doesn't
> originate from a residential network, which is horrible for deliverability
> — and something similar would probably work for Mailman.
>
> lowendbox.com is the great repository of VPS host deals. They're
> currently showing the same deal on the same provider I use: RackNerd. At
> that point it just becomes a matter of apt install mailman and copying some
> files over; getting the archives up might take some extra time investment
> but at least the list itself could have continuity.
>

Something like that would probably make the most sense.

I already subscribe to Kamatera though which is a more expensive while
still being fairly cheap, but provides scalability (we probably don't
need). Nothing kills like overkill.

The server will end up hosting mailman, bitchin100 mediawiki (php+mysql),
the home page, and CloudT.

Daryl Tester offered to help get mailman going. The other stuff isn't a
rush, it's still working. But I am getting off of Dreamhost.

-- John.

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