Please post your definition of "clearly pornographic". _____
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tanya Bemis Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 2:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: (",) Wishing You Were Here Someone asked why members are being so silent. I, for, one read the memos, but don't respond because I don't have anything substantive to say about some topics. However, I've been following with interest this conversation about the intent of mailart and whether/how to edit submitted pieces for exhibiting purposes. I understand exhibition was not originally the goal of mailartists, but the artform seems to be changing, along with the rest culture. I suppose this is inevitable. This conversation has been very informative for me because I am coordinating two mailart projects which will eventually be displayed at a public school during a national holiday. Obviously, certain submitted pieces with clearly pornographic material will have to be left out of the exhibit, and they are not posted on my website. Not only are they clearly not in line with the invitation, but they will offend many viewers. Not sure why they were submitted in the first place. This conversation about censorship of mailart will also be a topic I will bring up at a workshop on mailart for teachers and parents I'm coordinating. I'm sure folks will have many strong opinions on the subject. Thanks for everyone's input. Tanya --- pattibdesign@ <mailto:pattibdesign%40aol.com> aol.com wrote: > I have chosen, in the past, not to participate in > various mail art projects for various reasons , from > lack of interest in the subject, to disagreement > with the theme, to just not having time, and so on. > It is true, each artist must decide for themselves > whether or not to participate. I have hosted many > mailart projects in the past few years, and at first > did a documentation at the end, scanning and > printing thumbnails of all the entries and sending > that , in color, along with names and addresses to > all participants. The last two years, I have done > online documentation, usually on a weekly (or so) > basis to a webblog of all artwork sent to me, > whether it is on the theme of the call, or not. I > get a lot of 'random' mailart as well as answers to > calls. For the calls, I do a periodic mailing of > names and addresses to all who have submitted, but > the primary docu is online scanning and posting..... > takes a LOT of time, that is true, but is less > costly than printing 100-200 color documentations. > I really appreciate the people who can do the > beautiful catalogues of the shows, but I suspect > they have some kind of financial backing from the > galleries, or community art associations. > By the way .... check out my blog > > http://pati- <http://pati-bristow.livejournal.com/> bristow.livejournal.com/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:allanr%40digitalsalon.com> .com > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:ma-network%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com > Sent: Tue, 8 May 2007 6:06 PM > Subject: RE: (",) Wishing You Were Here > > > I mostly agree with you Pati B. > > I think that the call in question DOES say that ALL > works will be exhibited, but suggests that not all > work will be documented online. This is a bit of a > grey area because it can be extremely time consuming > to scan or photograph every item, edit and adjust > each image, then post it to a web site --- > especially if the exhibit has no staff besides the > curator. I have seen some shows get around this by > posting photos of the whole exhibit instead of > individual works. Like most questions in life, this > one is probably best answered with, "it depends". > And as mentioned in a previous post, there is > nothing compelling anyone to participate in a call > that they don't like. For example, I have decided > not to participate in mail art calls that had > political or religious themes that did not appeal to > me. I never questioned the right of the organizers > to put out the call though. It is not the > organizer's responsibility to put out only those > calls that I happen to agree with --- the choice of > whether or not to participate is up to each > individual artist. > > So Dragonfly, please keep the calls coming. I > appreciate all your efforts to keep us informed! > Thank you. > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:ma-network%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:ma-network%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com] On Behalf Of > pattibdesign@ <mailto:pattibdesign%40aol.com> aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 8:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:ma-network%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com > Subject: Re: (",) Wishing You Were Here > > > But then , if you limit what can be posted here ... > that is censorship, too. I am not disagreeing with > Lavona about the censorship idea .... I think a > mailart call should document, post, ALL works sent, > not by selection ... that is one of the basic > premises of mailart, is it not??? > Pati B. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lavona_sherarts@ <mailto:lavona_sherarts%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:ma-network%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com > Sent: Tue, 8 May 2007 2:52 PM > Subject: Re: (",) Wishing You Were Here > > > Okey Dokey, I may cut out of here if it becomes a > commercial thingy. > I believe in Mail art, not donation things or > censoring. Sorry folks. > The Bitch > --- Reed Altemus <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:raltemus%40gwi.net> net> wrote: > > > No, that's right, probably not a way to limit it > > here. Best > > to leave it up to folks on the list who they want > to > > support > > or not. > > > > Dragonfly Dream wrote: > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > >> Not allow these kind of invitations on this > site. > > OR > > >> make it loud and clear > Thanks. LaVona > > >> - > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think there is a way to limit what kind > of > > posts we do > > > here..... I simply pass along calls that folks > > post to my site. > > > > > > > > > Dragonfly Dream > > > www.dragonflydream.com > > > > > > > > > > > > "The great end of art is to strike the > imagination > > with the power of a > > > soul that refuses to admit defeat even in the > > midst of a collapsing > > > world." > > > > > > -- Friedrich Nietzsche > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. <http://www.flickr.com/photos/lavonasherarts> com/photos/lavonasherarts > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail. <http://mail.yahoo.com> yahoo.com > > > > AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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