Well said, I was not going to involve myself in this thread but I will say a 
few things. The product is still very new, and considering this, I think it 
does quite a bit. Ok, the browser does not have streaming, that would be nice, 
but that's not a feature worth delaying the release of a product. More people 
use a browser to read pages than to stream audio, I think what code factory 
tried to do was include the most important, most used features first. Android 
is a totally different environment from Symbian and windows mobile, for me at 
least, I have no regrets on purchasing it.
On Oct 20, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Brad Ford wrote:

> Wow. Way 2 bash 1 of the only companies trying 2 make android accessable. It 
> seems u arent a program designer. If u were, u would really understand how 
> long it takes for these kinds of things 2 be developed. U pay for the app 
> because of that time and effort made 2 design ma. There is a way 2 have 
> feedback without brow beating an entire company. 
> Besides all that, the app is really still very new. It took freedom 
> scientific ages 2 get the bugs out of jaws. They still have a few bugs. 
> Did u ever think that maybe its more the fact that u either had false 
> expectations when downloading it coz u had a phone with mobile speak before? 
> Maybe its also coz u arent that great a touch screen user, lets face it, not 
> every blind person likes or can use a touch screen. The key is 2 open ur mind 
> and be adaptable coz afterall, all software designed for the blind is 
> adaptable. 
> Regards 
> brad 
> -----Original message-----
> From: Nimer M. Jaber  IC³
> Sent:  21/10/2011, 7:34  am
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MA] Codefactory, please take notes of these opinions
> 
> 
> Mike,
> 
> My comments resulted from the half-ass job they did with the access
> they _did provide. I downloaded it mainly for testing purposes but
> also because of the email client and web browser, but I was shocked at
> how little attention they paid to making their product truly usable. I
> mean, what kind of a browser doesn't provide streaming? And it takes a
> sighted person who has no experience with the blind to say "Oh, we
> should include a where am I app because poor helpless blind people are
> always getting lost and they should know their address every two
> inches while walking but the intersection isn't that important because
> why would blind people care about that"? And it's not like the cloud
> hasn't been around for a while now ... I mean, how difficult would it
> be to make the google calendar and the MA calendar sync? And maybe
> provide push notifications for the MA calendar? Like "Hey, you have an
> appointment coming up, here's a little alarm to remind you". Or are we
> substandard phone users who wouldn't wish to appreciate the features
> that every single sighted phone and/or droid user has enjoyed for the
> past few years? now, before people start blocking me because of
> negative posts, I am enjoying certain aspects of mobile accessibility.
> The apps list with its removing apps being right there in the menu,
> the email app for the most part, the calendar even are excellent apps,
> and the voice is excellent. But it is extremely lacking, I don't know
> if there are any MA representatives keeping an eye on this list, and I
> haven't seen an effort to fix these issues even though I have seen the
> same things I'm posting about over and over on many different lists.
> Now maybe they're going to come out with an awesome new update that
> fixes all of this. At that point, I will try it out and say "Wow, I'm
> sorry codefactory, you really have innovated and come a long way".
> Until then, how can I recomment that a user pay the most money for any
> app I have used on the android market when it doesn't provide too much
> more access than other free alternatives? This is especially true with
> the release of the accessible browser in ICS.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On 20.10.2011, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hey everyone, while we all would like more answers, remember that the
>> new version of android has just been released, at least the SDK has.
>> Also, there are other companies that don't provide a lot of feedback
>> until a product is released, Apple is probably most known for this.
>> Original message:
>>> Hi all I am sure code factory will do us proud and it would be nice if we
>>> had some answers but the more they answer emails the less time they have
>>> to
>>> develop things. I wonder if anyone can tell me if the orion 18 will be of
>>> use to uk customers or is it just in America where it will be used.?
>>> thanks.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mauro Avila" <[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 5:01 PM
>>> Subject: [MA] Codefactory, please take notes of these opinions
>> 
>> 
>>>> Hello.
>> 
>>>> Well, I have seen that some kind of customer careless from codefactory.
>> 
>>>> I have months asking for a recomendation of a cell phone with android,
>>>> neven in their web page they have a simple list of recomended models.
>> 
>>>> In Nuance's web page they have a list of cell phones which can run Talks.
>> 
>>>> Codefactory does not have something like that.
>> 
>>>> Besides, people consider that a better customer attention is needed.
>> 
>>>> We would like to know is you have something which might improve the work
>>>> of MA in the new Android version, people could prefer your product in
>>>> sted
>>>> of Apple's or Nuance's because they velieve in Android concept and they
>>>> spect if Coode factory support android so, they will support codefactory.
>> 
>>>> Thanks and keep reading the opinion of your users.
>> 
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