What you said wasn't too detailed, its exactly how MIDI works, even the
manual of my Yamaha MX49 says nearly as much as you've said, enough for
the user to know - if they could be bothered reading the Introduction to
the user manual - that output of sound from the keyboard and MIDI I/O
are 2 different things, as you say MIDI is a controlling interface.
Now this brings me to a question regarding my MX49 which I've been
meaning to get going for the last 3 months, you know how it is, gets put
on the list of 50,000 other things that have to be done in the next 10
years <smile>, is the USB port for MIDI access the same as the MIDI I/O
5 Pin Din ports on the machine, can I use the supplied USB cable that
came with the synth for all MIDI controls or do I need to purchase an
adapter.
Just to simplify things, I plan to be using this keyboard on the Mac
with garage Band.
On 5/04/2015 9:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Sorry for being so detailed. I just wanted to be sure that you
understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds. A lot of
people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce
sounds out the keyboard.
I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than
necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have
gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable
or whatever in wasn't working.
Pardon the novel-writing. Did you get anything helpful though out of
my message? I hope so?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Devin Prater" <[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a
program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could
optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X
10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily
learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can
just play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone
through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low
quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the
keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good
and all, so that’s what I want to do.
On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<[email protected]> wrote:
You're talking two totally different things here.
Let's get one thing totally straight. Midi isn't audio. All that
midi basically is are different numerical values for certain
triggered events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0 means
the event is off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing you do
with the keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are
called. I understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer
your question, I have to define this, so you'll understand in a
second where I am going with this. So what happens with midi is,
these events are sent to your midi hardware or software controller
either on the input, or on the output side. Trust me with this, I
am an audio engineer, so I know what I'm talking about, believe
me. I've done this stuff for years. Not saying I'm God, and know
everything, cause I definitely don't, but this much, I do! know.
OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at
hand... The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi.
If you don't plan to record, but just want to play, then Audacity or
even Main Stage might be your best bet. The thing however is, just
know that if you want to get the sounds from your keyboard, it may
take a little more work. First of all, does your keyboard have
built in speakers? If not, you'll need to somehow get the keyboard
going to a line source like the line in of your mac, or to a mixer
etc. I don't know your setup, so it's kind of hard for me to really
determine e everything right up front without more info.
You're going to most likely need a midi to USB converter, because
obviously, the mac doesn't have built in round midi in and out and
through ports. There is a nice device called the midi Uno that would
work with this. Basically, it's a Y cable. One end has 3 of the
male round plugs. One for in, one for out, and one for through.
So, you'd connect that end to your keyboard, and leave the through
cable dangling if you don't have a through port on the keyboard...
it won't hurt anything. The other end is a standard USB plug. That
would go into the USB port on your mac. I think they're somewhere
like around $50 or so. Amazong should have them. I've had mine for
about 5 years now, so I can't tell ya if they still exist, but, I'd
definitely look.
If your keyboard actually connects via USB, not the round midi
plugs, then just use a standard plug and play USB cable, and you'll
be good to go.
If you want to then play midi with the built in instruments, then
you'll open up your DAW, (Digital Audio workstation,) of choice, be
it Garageband, Audacity, whatever, and you'll want to set your midi
output to your keyboard midi controller. So, if you're using an
Uno, or some sort of midi to USB converter, it should, provided you
have the drivers properly installed, show up in your output list.
You'd just pick it, and boom, you're done. Now you'll play the midi
file just like you normally would and it then should come out your
keyboard speakers, or if no speakers, it'll get routed to your
keyboard's line out/headphone out which you then have fed back into
a line in source of some type.
If you wanna record using the sounds in the keyboard, this gets a
little more complecated. Basically, keeping it general, and
elementary, you'd need, even if there are! built in speakers, to
connect a stereo patch cable to the line out, preferred, or if you
don't have one, the headphone jack of the keyboard, and the other
end into a channel on your interface/mixer, or if you don't have
one, then directly to your line in on the mac. Fire up your DAW of
choice. Open the midi file, or record it like normal, then in your
project, create a stereo audio track for your final master mix, arm
it for recording if needed, then making sure none of your midi
tracks are armed, so you don't accidentally record over them, hit
record in the software of your choice, and then basically allow the
midi to play through your keyboard, and get routed out the keyboard
to the line in of your mixer/interface/line in jack on the mac,
therefore capturing that audio and recording it to the stereo audio
track you just created. Then, once done, delete all the midi tracks
from the project, leaving only the one audio track, and then
mix/bounce/render, however the DAW calls it, it down to either a
wave file, or an mp3. Preferably a wave file, so that it won't be
compressed or with any artifacts. You can later go back and encode
that wave to an mp3 file, if it be needed.
I do offer tech support on this type thing, so if you need help,
give me a call on Monday, and I can definitely help you with this.
My rates are $15 an hour, or $25 flat rate for unlimited tech
support during business hours for one whole month. I take PayPal,
and I also can over the phone process Visa and Mastercards if it be
a last resort. I prefer PayPal though as the other way can be a bit
dicy for some people. Just know though, it is an option. PayPal
Here is my processor if you go that avenue, so it's totally 100%
secure.
If you want to do this and take advantage of my support options, my
support phone number is:
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I hope that I've been of help.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Devin Prater" <[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 4:35 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Hi all. I mac a lovely midi keyboard… Well it will be when I find
the midi -to-usb cable… Its a Yamaha keyboard with its own built-in
instruments. I really would rather use its instruments instead of
the garageband ones, and would rather have a program that simply
makes midi files, like QWS on Windows. Are there any apps that can
do that for the Mac?
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