Yep, I gathered I had to set something and I'm going to have to get some
sighted assistance to go through the menu system to find that but again,
all detailed in the manual if details are required, thanks again.
On 5/04/2015 11:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Dane, as I said in my e-mail, that's perfect. That will work
flawlessly. Just plug the cord from the keyboard to your USB port, and
boom. You're done. Obviously, you'll have to go into GB or whatever
and set your midi in and out device to your keyboard/controller, but
that's easy enough to do.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
What you said wasn't too detailed, its exactly how MIDI works, even
the manual of my Yamaha MX49 says nearly as much as you've said,
enough for the user to know - if they could be bothered reading the
Introduction to the user manual - that output of sound from the
keyboard and MIDI I/O are 2 different things, as you say MIDI is a
controlling interface.
Now this brings me to a question regarding my MX49 which I've been
meaning to get going for the last 3 months, you know how it is, gets
put on the list of 50,000 other things that have to be done in the
next 10 years <smile>, is the USB port for MIDI access the same as
the MIDI I/O 5 Pin Din ports on the machine, can I use the supplied
USB cable that came with the synth for all MIDI controls or do I need
to purchase an adapter.
Just to simplify things, I plan to be using this keyboard on the Mac
with garage Band.
On 5/04/2015 9:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Sorry for being so detailed. I just wanted to be sure that you
understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds. A lot
of people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce
sounds out the keyboard.
I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail
than necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to
have gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a
midi cable or whatever in wasn't working.
Pardon the novel-writing. Did you get anything helpful though out
of my message? I hope so?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Devin Prater" <[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want
a program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and
could optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand
on OS X 10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a
simple, easily learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi
so that I can just play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the
last hour, gone through the keyboard’s array of sounds and found
them a little low quality, the keyboard is an older model, so I may
just play using the keyboard then export to mp3 or something then
all the tracks are good and all, so that’s what I want to do.
On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<[email protected]> wrote:
You're talking two totally different things here.
Let's get one thing totally straight. Midi isn't audio. All that
midi basically is are different numerical values for certain
triggered events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0
means the event is off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing
you do with the keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they
are called. I understand this isn't what you're asking, but to
answer your question, I have to define this, so you'll understand
in a second where I am going with this. So what happens with midi
is, these events are sent to your midi hardware or software
controller either on the input, or on the output side. Trust me
with this, I am an audio engineer, so I know what I'm talking
about, believe me. I've done this stuff for years. Not saying I'm
God, and know everything, cause I definitely don't, but this much,
I do! know.
OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at
hand... The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi.
If you don't plan to record, but just want to play, then Audacity
or even Main Stage might be your best bet. The thing however is,
just know that if you want to get the sounds from your keyboard,
it may take a little more work. First of all, does your keyboard
have built in speakers? If not, you'll need to somehow get the
keyboard going to a line source like the line in of your mac, or
to a mixer etc. I don't know your setup, so it's kind of hard for
me to really determine e everything right up front without more info.
You're going to most likely need a midi to USB converter, because
obviously, the mac doesn't have built in round midi in and out and
through ports. There is a nice device called the midi Uno that
would work with this. Basically, it's a Y cable. One end has 3 of
the male round plugs. One for in, one for out, and one for
through. So, you'd connect that end to your keyboard, and leave
the through cable dangling if you don't have a through port on the
keyboard... it won't hurt anything. The other end is a standard
USB plug. That would go into the USB port on your mac. I think
they're somewhere like around $50 or so. Amazong should have
them. I've had mine for about 5 years now, so I can't tell ya if
they still exist, but, I'd definitely look.
If your keyboard actually connects via USB, not the round midi
plugs, then just use a standard plug and play USB cable, and
you'll be good to go.
If you want to then play midi with the built in instruments, then
you'll open up your DAW, (Digital Audio workstation,) of choice,
be it Garageband, Audacity, whatever, and you'll want to set your
midi output to your keyboard midi controller. So, if you're using
an Uno, or some sort of midi to USB converter, it should, provided
you have the drivers properly installed, show up in your output
list. You'd just pick it, and boom, you're done. Now you'll play
the midi file just like you normally would and it then should come
out your keyboard speakers, or if no speakers, it'll get routed to
your keyboard's line out/headphone out which you then have fed
back into a line in source of some type.
If you wanna record using the sounds in the keyboard, this gets a
little more complecated. Basically, keeping it general, and
elementary, you'd need, even if there are! built in speakers, to
connect a stereo patch cable to the line out, preferred, or if you
don't have one, the headphone jack of the keyboard, and the other
end into a channel on your interface/mixer, or if you don't have
one, then directly to your line in on the mac. Fire up your DAW
of choice. Open the midi file, or record it like normal, then in
your project, create a stereo audio track for your final master
mix, arm it for recording if needed, then making sure none of your
midi tracks are armed, so you don't accidentally record over them,
hit record in the software of your choice, and then basically
allow the midi to play through your keyboard, and get routed out
the keyboard to the line in of your mixer/interface/line in jack
on the mac, therefore capturing that audio and recording it to the
stereo audio track you just created. Then, once done, delete all
the midi tracks from the project, leaving only the one audio
track, and then mix/bounce/render, however the DAW calls it, it
down to either a wave file, or an mp3. Preferably a wave file, so
that it won't be compressed or with any artifacts. You can later
go back and encode that wave to an mp3 file, if it be needed.
I do offer tech support on this type thing, so if you need help,
give me a call on Monday, and I can definitely help you with
this. My rates are $15 an hour, or $25 flat rate for unlimited
tech support during business hours for one whole month. I take
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option. PayPal Here is my processor if you go that avenue, so it's
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If you want to do this and take advantage of my support options,
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standard time.
I hope that I've been of help.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Devin Prater" <[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 4:35 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Hi all. I mac a lovely midi keyboard… Well it will be when I find
the midi -to-usb cable… Its a Yamaha keyboard with its own
built-in instruments. I really would rather use its instruments
instead of the garageband ones, and would rather have a program
that simply makes midi files, like QWS on Windows. Are there any
apps that can do that for the Mac?
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