Ah okay, I thought a menu option had to be set on the synth itself to
enable the MIDI interface.
As for the sound from the Synth? The MX49 is not equipped with internal
speakers so no problem there <smile>.
On 5/04/2015 11:55 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Not really, Dane. The only thing really that you may have to really
do in the keyboard menus would be to turn off local mode. and even
that's technically optional. In the meantime, if you dont' want to
hear things out of sync coming out the keyboard's audio output, just
turn the volume of the keyboard all the way down with it's master
volume control. I mean, ok, you might have to go in to the thing and
enable the USB midi portion of it, although I've never ever in all
keyboard/digital piano/controllers ever seen the need to do this, so
you should be just fine.
When I referred to setting your input and output, I was talking about
setting that on the midi track within Garageband or whatever itself on
the software side. You shouldn't need sighted help for that. That's
something Voiceover should deal with no problems.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Yep, I gathered I had to set something and I'm going to have to get
some sighted assistance to go through the menu system to find that
but again, all detailed in the manual if details are required, thanks
again.
On 5/04/2015 11:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Dane, as I said in my e-mail, that's perfect. That will work
flawlessly. Just plug the cord from the keyboard to your USB port,
and boom. You're done. Obviously, you'll have to go into GB or
whatever and set your midi in and out device to your
keyboard/controller, but that's easy enough to do.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
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To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
What you said wasn't too detailed, its exactly how MIDI works, even
the manual of my Yamaha MX49 says nearly as much as you've said,
enough for the user to know - if they could be bothered reading the
Introduction to the user manual - that output of sound from the
keyboard and MIDI I/O are 2 different things, as you say MIDI is a
controlling interface.
Now this brings me to a question regarding my MX49 which I've been
meaning to get going for the last 3 months, you know how it is,
gets put on the list of 50,000 other things that have to be done in
the next 10 years <smile>, is the USB port for MIDI access the same
as the MIDI I/O 5 Pin Din ports on the machine, can I use the
supplied USB cable that came with the synth for all MIDI controls
or do I need to purchase an adapter.
Just to simplify things, I plan to be using this keyboard on the
Mac with garage Band.
On 5/04/2015 9:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Sorry for being so detailed. I just wanted to be sure that you
understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds. A lot
of people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't
produce sounds out the keyboard.
I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail
than necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you
to have gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging
a midi cable or whatever in wasn't working.
Pardon the novel-writing. Did you get anything helpful though out
of my message? I hope so?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Devin Prater" <[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply
want a program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi,
and could optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that
GarageBand on OS X 10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I
simply want a simple, easily learned and accessible editor
that’ll work with midi so that I can just play using the
keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through the
keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low quality,
the keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the
keyboard then export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are
good and all, so that’s what I want to do.
On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<[email protected]> wrote:
You're talking two totally different things here.
Let's get one thing totally straight. Midi isn't audio. All
that midi basically is are different numerical values for
certain triggered events, with 1's and 0's attached to it.
Basically 0 means the event is off, while 1 means it is on.
Every single thing you do with the keyboard is associated with a
midi event, as they are called. I understand this isn't what
you're asking, but to answer your question, I have to define
this, so you'll understand in a second where I am going with
this. So what happens with midi is, these events are sent to
your midi hardware or software controller either on the input,
or on the output side. Trust me with this, I am an audio
engineer, so I know what I'm talking about, believe me. I've
done this stuff for years. Not saying I'm God, and know
everything, cause I definitely don't, but this much, I do! know.
OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at
hand... The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do
midi. If you don't plan to record, but just want to play, then
Audacity or even Main Stage might be your best bet. The thing
however is, just know that if you want to get the sounds from
your keyboard, it may take a little more work. First of all,
does your keyboard have built in speakers? If not, you'll need
to somehow get the keyboard going to a line source like the line
in of your mac, or to a mixer etc. I don't know your setup, so
it's kind of hard for me to really determine e everything right
up front without more info.
You're going to most likely need a midi to USB converter,
because obviously, the mac doesn't have built in round midi in
and out and through ports. There is a nice device called the
midi Uno that would work with this. Basically, it's a Y cable.
One end has 3 of the male round plugs. One for in, one for out,
and one for through. So, you'd connect that end to your
keyboard, and leave the through cable dangling if you don't have
a through port on the keyboard... it won't hurt anything. The
other end is a standard USB plug. That would go into the USB
port on your mac. I think they're somewhere like around $50 or
so. Amazong should have them. I've had mine for about 5 years
now, so I can't tell ya if they still exist, but, I'd definitely
look.
If your keyboard actually connects via USB, not the round midi
plugs, then just use a standard plug and play USB cable, and
you'll be good to go.
If you want to then play midi with the built in instruments,
then you'll open up your DAW, (Digital Audio workstation,) of
choice, be it Garageband, Audacity, whatever, and you'll want to
set your midi output to your keyboard midi controller. So, if
you're using an Uno, or some sort of midi to USB converter, it
should, provided you have the drivers properly installed, show
up in your output list. You'd just pick it, and boom, you're
done. Now you'll play the midi file just like you normally would
and it then should come out your keyboard speakers, or if no
speakers, it'll get routed to your keyboard's line out/headphone
out which you then have fed back into a line in source of some
type.
If you wanna record using the sounds in the keyboard, this gets
a little more complecated. Basically, keeping it general, and
elementary, you'd need, even if there are! built in speakers, to
connect a stereo patch cable to the line out, preferred, or if
you don't have one, the headphone jack of the keyboard, and the
other end into a channel on your interface/mixer, or if you
don't have one, then directly to your line in on the mac. Fire
up your DAW of choice. Open the midi file, or record it like
normal, then in your project, create a stereo audio track for
your final master mix, arm it for recording if needed, then
making sure none of your midi tracks are armed, so you don't
accidentally record over them, hit record in the software of
your choice, and then basically allow the midi to play through
your keyboard, and get routed out the keyboard to the line in of
your mixer/interface/line in jack on the mac, therefore
capturing that audio and recording it to the stereo audio track
you just created. Then, once done, delete all the midi tracks
from the project, leaving only the one audio track, and then
mix/bounce/render, however the DAW calls it, it down to either a
wave file, or an mp3. Preferably a wave file, so that it won't
be compressed or with any artifacts. You can later go back and
encode that wave to an mp3 file, if it be needed.
I do offer tech support on this type thing, so if you need help,
give me a call on Monday, and I can definitely help you with
this. My rates are $15 an hour, or $25 flat rate for unlimited
tech support during business hours for one whole month. I take
PayPal, and I also can over the phone process Visa and
Mastercards if it be a last resort. I prefer PayPal though as
the other way can be a bit dicy for some people. Just know
though, it is an option. PayPal Here is my processor if you go
that avenue, so it's totally 100% secure.
If you want to do this and take advantage of my support options,
my support phone number is:
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standard time.
I hope that I've been of help.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Devin Prater" <[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 4:35 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Hi all. I mac a lovely midi keyboard… Well it will be when I
find the midi -to-usb cable… Its a Yamaha keyboard with its own
built-in instruments. I really would rather use its instruments
instead of the garageband ones, and would rather have a program
that simply makes midi files, like QWS on Windows. Are there
any apps that can do that for the Mac?
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