I attempted to follow your instructions, but System Preferences crashed. I 
thought command-option-shift-t would work as a shortcut. Thoughts?

Jane


On Jul 17, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hello Anne,
> 
> I meant to comment earlier on your nice discovery about reading tables in 
> Pages with VoiceOver by using the Format menu and Table submenu, which I 
> certainly did not know about before.  However, when I want to read a page 
> with an table embedded in Pages, I select the page or section, and then use 
> my custom keyboard shortcut assigned to the Services menu option for "New 
> TextEdit Window Containing Selection".  This effectively converts the 
> contents of the table to text for the purposes of VoiceOver's reading.  It 
> switches focus to the selected text in a TextEdit window, where VoiceOver 
> will just read through.  Then you can command-tab back to Pages.  I don't get 
> many instances like this -- generally there are only a few Word documents 
> that I need to open in Pages.  However, I had to do this to read an embedded 
> table recently, and this method worked for me, so I thought I would share 
> this in case it also proved useful for others as an alternative to try.
> 
> This Services Menu shortcut is quite general purpose, and you'll recall that 
> this can be used to read web pages with accessibility problems due to poor 
> HTML formatting. You just need to check the box for "New TextEdit Window 
> Containing Selection" to be one of the active commands in the Services Menu 
> and assign it your own custom shortcut.  Then select the page or section, and 
> type your custom shortcut -- VoiceOver will read the selection including the 
> table in TextEdit.
> 
> Let me know whether this works for you, and maybe someone can try this in 
> Nisus Writer Pro 2, as well, since both Damian and Dane referred to the 
> problem of VoiceOver reading embedded tables in another post. 
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Jul 16, 2011, at 21:32, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I'm sending this again since some of you seem to have missed it last week.
>> 
>> Maybe other people here already knew about this, but I just discovered today 
>> that you can make tables visible in Pages by selecting one and going to the 
>> Format menu and down to the Table submenu where you select Convert Table to 
>> Text. The contents of the table are then readable with VoiceOver. You still 
>> have to copy the table into Numbers to edit it effectively, but if all you 
>> want to do is read it, this solves that problem.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
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