Hi Jane, I can't think of any existing keyboard shortcut definition conflicts with Command-Option-Shift-t, but if you're using the right Option key and have Keyboard Commanders active (so that pressing Right Option+t announces the time), I guess there could potentially be some issues. I'm using Command-Option-Shift-w.
When you set up the keyboard shortcut definition, did you do it by moving one column to the right of the category names column and typing in your shortcut or did you add it as an applications shortcut in a separate step? Since I initially set up the shortcut when I first got Snow Leopard, I did this in two steps: I first checked "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" under the Services menu, then exited the System Preferences menu by closing the window so I could make sure this option appeared in the Services menu once I selected some text (in any application). Then I went back to the Keyboard Shortcuts pane, selected "Application Shortcuts" (instead of "Services") in the "Shortcuts Categories" table, and pressed the "Add an Application Shortcut" button, and let my shortcut key assignment be applied to "All Applications". To be on the safe side, I also restarted my computer, since I was using it for "All Applications". I don't think you actually need to take this many steps and, in fact, I think you can simply navigate one column to the right of the second column which has the category name of "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" after verifying that the check box in the first column is checked. I was able to VO-Space and type in a keyboard shortcut combination here. There used to be problems (under all versions of Leopard) activating this field, at least to change this field, with the "obvious" keystrokes. (I think hardware double-clicking worked, and so did pressing the tab key). However, the virtue of splitting the steps up is that you can be sure that the new option is available to you under Services Menu, even without an assigned shortcut, and in the case of conflicting shortcut assignments, you can fix/change this without affecting the availability of this menu option. Remember that the "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" menu option appears only if you have first selected some text, and that it will show up in the Services submenu of any application -- just use Control+F2 or VO-M to go to the menu bar and navigate to the right to the application menu, then arrow down or type "s e" to go to the Services menu. This menu option should show up when you VO-Right arrow to the Services submenu. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 17, 2011, at 04:16, Jane wrote: > I attempted to follow your instructions, but System Preferences crashed. I > thought command-option-shift-t would work as a shortcut. Thoughts? > > Jane > > > On Jul 17, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Esther wrote: > >> Hello Anne, >> >> I meant to comment earlier on your nice discovery about reading tables in >> Pages with VoiceOver by using the Format menu and Table submenu, which I >> certainly did not know about before. However, when I want to read a page >> with an table embedded in Pages, I select the page or section, and then use >> my custom keyboard shortcut assigned to the Services menu option for "New >> TextEdit Window Containing Selection". This effectively converts the >> contents of the table to text for the purposes of VoiceOver's reading. It >> switches focus to the selected text in a TextEdit window, where VoiceOver >> will just read through. Then you can command-tab back to Pages. I don't >> get many instances like this -- generally there are only a few Word >> documents that I need to open in Pages. However, I had to do this to read >> an embedded table recently, and this method worked for me, so I thought I >> would share this in case it also proved useful for others as an alternative >> to try. >> >> This Services Menu shortcut is quite general purpose, and you'll recall that >> this can be used to read web pages with accessibility problems due to poor >> HTML formatting. You just need to check the box for "New TextEdit Window >> Containing Selection" to be one of the active commands in the Services Menu >> and assign it your own custom shortcut. Then select the page or section, >> and type your custom shortcut -- VoiceOver will read the selection including >> the table in TextEdit. >> >> Let me know whether this works for you, and maybe someone can try this in >> Nisus Writer Pro 2, as well, since both Damian and Dane referred to the >> problem of VoiceOver reading embedded tables in another post. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Jul 16, 2011, at 21:32, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I'm sending this again since some of you seem to have missed it last week. >>> >>> Maybe other people here already knew about this, but I just discovered >>> today that you can make tables visible in Pages by selecting one and going >>> to the Format menu and down to the Table submenu where you select Convert >>> Table to Text. The contents of the table are then readable with VoiceOver. >>> You still have to copy the table into Numbers to edit it effectively, but >>> if all you want to do is read it, this solves that problem. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to [email protected] You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <https://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
