ester, gordon, Zack, and all
This quest for a backup solution has been much more difficult then I
anticipated. I just wanted either Carbon Copy Cloner to take care of
everything or find something on the Mac side to do the equivalent. Esther's
post clarified many things for me. Even though I had all ready read the CCC
notes indicating I would need another solution, I hoped that win clone or
something might fill the need on the Mac side. I looked into the resources
Esther listed and as they seemed to range in cost from about $30.00 to $60.00
US I began to really think the investment in VM Fusion might be the way to go.
this way CCC can back up my system at a time when all is working well. For the
extra cost I also get additional advantages available from VM Fusion. I did
put a few feelers out on the Windows side of things and found nothing even
close to the convenient and accessible solutions available on the Mac.
So Unless I hear anything different in the near future I'll next be reviewing
all my saved messages from this list on VM Fusion then probably asking you
successful VM Fusion users for guidance. All the messages about lost sound and
trouble loading in VM Tools and such have me a bit apprehensive.
Thanks to all of you for this tremendous amount of information and support.
Eric Caron
On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Esther wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I don't use Windows through BootCamp or VMWare Fusion, but I thought I would
> quote the results of a Google search from the Carbon Copy Cloner FAQ:
> http://help.bombich.com/kb/troubleshooting/can-ccc-back-up-my-bootcamp-windows-partition
> <begin quote>
> Home → Knowledge Base → Frequently Asked Questions and Troubleshooting →
> Can CCC back up my BootCamp (Windows) partition?
>
> CCC can back up the contents of the Boot Camp partition, but it cannot make a
> bootable clone of the partition. If your goal is to back up your user data on
> the Boot Camp partition, CCC will meet your needs. If you're looking to
> migrate your Boot Camp partition to a new hard drive, you might consider an
> alternative solution such as WinClone, or one of the commercial
> virtualization solutions that offer a migration strategy from Boot Camp.
> <end quote>
> To reiterate the points that both Zack and Lynne have made, CCC cannot make a
> bootable clone that includes a separate BootCamp partition, but it can create
> a bootable clone that includes a VMWare Fusion virtualized image made using
> the BootCamp partition -- however, you would not be running BootCamp if you
> used this bootable clone, but instead accessing Windows through VMWare Fusion.
>
> I'll add that neither Carbon Copy Cloner nor SuperDuper! will back up the
> recovery partition that gets installed on your hard drive with Lion. This is
> the small partition that lets you hold down Command-R at start up or the
> Option key at boot time to select and start up from that partition. You can
> create external recovery disks with Lion Recovery Disk Assistant, as outlined
> in the "Take Control of Upgrading to Lion" guide or in the recent TidBITS
> article, "Lion Recovery Disk Assistant Creates External Recovery Drives":
> http://tidbits.com/article/12411
>
> I'll list a few of the answers that have appeared in the Apple Discussion
> forums for backup tools that will handle cloning the BootCamp partition.
> Most users preferred to handle the Mac partition backups with either
> SuperDuper! or CCC. Although some of the following can handle both, they may
> be meant primarily for drive imaging, so there are other tradeoffs (e.g.,
> take much longer, fewer backup/restore options with more specific
> functionality, etc.)
>
> • CopyCatX 5.0 from SubRosaSoft.com:
> http://www.subrosasoft.com/OSXSoftware/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=7
>
>
> • Clone X 4 from TRI-EDRE:
> http://www.tri-edre.com/english/clonex.html
> (The French web page is: <http://www.tri-edre.com/fr/clonex.html> )
>
> * Paragon HD Manager 2011 or Paragon Backup & Recovery 10 Home:
> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/hdm-personal/
> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/brh/features.html
> (I'm not sure whether you run this from BootCamp; the description of how
> someone used the "Backup Partition" option of HD Manager 2011 to boot from
> DVD sounded as though it might not be accessible.)
>
> The inability to use Winclone under Lion and its lack of current
> development/support was mentioned, and it wasn't clear whether Clonezilla, a
> solution that worked under Snow Leopard and which is free and open source
> software, would also work under Lion.
>
> HTH. Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
>
> On Sep 2, 2011, at 21:44, Zachary Kline wrote:
>
>> Hi Lynn,
>> You're quite correct. CCC or SuperDuper would not back up any bootcamp
>> partition, you'd need another backup utility to do that. I'm not sure what
>> programs are available for such tasks, as I find CCC adequate for my needs.
>> This is probably a good argument in favor of single-file VM configurations,
>> but that's neither here nor there. THe point to all this is yes, Lynn,
>> you're right. :)
>> Yours,
>> Zack.
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