wonderful Gordon thank you. On 13 Oct 2011, at 16:14, Gordon Smith wrote: > hi Donal > > When she comes home, I will ask Lynne to contact you off list as she has some > contact details which might help you. > > Gordon > > > On 13 Oct 2011, at 14:09, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > I'm in the same mode gordon. Basically I want the ability to kill *all* vo > sounds instead of speech. I've asked Apple about this, but like many of my > queries to accessibility over the past two weeks, the mail was ignored. > > Dónal > On 13 Oct 2011, at 14:06, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi Donal >> >> Int's been a while since I did this, because I must confess I use an >> Bluetooth keyboard most of the time instead of the on-screen version. But >> my iPad is in a mode where by touching a letter doesn't actually cause it >> to be activated. You have to actually lift your finger off the screen a >> little for that letter to be typed. But the point is that the sound is >> different. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 13 Oct 2011, at 14:00, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> Hi Lynne, >> >> Apologies I sent that last mail in a rush as I had to go teach a class; >> oddly enough about user-interaction and interface design which is always >> fun. The sounds I'm talking about are the VO sounds. When "mute" is on, >> there are none and I find I can operate the device faster. I've even done >> some task analysis on myself and (though this is only a sample-size of 1) >> I'm definitely more efficient. >> >> So let's say I'm in touch-typing mode and I miss the D key but hit the S. >> When I slide to the right I hear a click. This same click happens when one >> moves from icon to icon on the home screen etc. I *loath* these extra >> sounds. >> >> Rant over! >> On 13 Oct 2011, at 12:50, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Donal >>> >>> In the case of your keyboard clicks, can't you turn them off by changing >>> the typing mode to touch type? Or is it from Touch type? You know what I >>> mean; the mode where you slide your finger along and when you lift it, it >>> automatically adds the character. From memory; and please correct me if I >>> am wrong, but I don't think you get those clicks then. >>> >>> Personally I don't much care for the clicks either; but i can see why some >>> might like them and why Apple sees them as a "Must-have" It must be >>> difficult for somebody who is blind and new to the OS to know when they >>> have moved their finger sufficiently. >>> >>> I'm not blind and that's why I haven't voiced my opinion on this until now. >>> I can totally understand why a visually impaired person might like these. >>> >>> I know that Gordon finds them irritating when trying to create a text >>> message. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 13 Oct 2011, at 12:27, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> OK I may have missed something, but I'm slightly disappointed by the fact >>> that the clicks, beeps and pings Apple assumes every blind user wants to >>> here are still a part of the IOS experience. I personally hate, for >>> example, the click when I move my finger across the keyboard. (one can >>> turn off keyboard sounds in the sounds section but not the VO ones). I >>> love, for example, to keep my phone on mute because then I can just hear >>> the speech and none of this extraneous cr*p apple assumes I want to hear. >>> >>> I appreciate I'm probably in a minority here, but surely it can't be >>> difficult to give the user some control over what they want to hear? >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> >> >> Dónal Fitzpatrick >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> [email protected] >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> [email protected] >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> > > Dónal Fitzpatrick > [email protected] > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > [email protected] > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> > or at the public Mail Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and > worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > [email protected] > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> > or at the public Mail Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and > worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
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