OH it still happens to me  in and out of my otter box case. and I have an 
iphone 4. I hope otterbox will design there case to the proxi sensor will not 
interfeer with that.

Take care all.
On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Glenn wrote:

> That happens to me a lot.
> I just got a new case for Xmas, the "Keyboard Buddy", and perhaps it will do 
> better.
> One thing I have noticed with the new case is that my double-tapping is more 
> responsive than with my old case.
> My old case was the hard case that would act as a stand for either watching 
> the screen or doing a video call, because of the fold-out picture-frame 
> stand in the back.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Jones" <[email protected]>
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:11 PM
> Subject: Re: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls
> 
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> I'm wondering if your speaker / earpiece switching bug is the same as the 
> proximity sensor bug many of us experienced when the iPhone 4 was first 
> released. The proximity sensor, which is located next to the earpiece on the 
> iPhone 4, is a sensor that recognizes when some object, usually a person's 
> face, gets close to the earpiece. For VO Users, the proximity sensor is what 
> normally tells the iPhone to switch it's phone audio between the earpiece 
> and the speaker. For both VO and non-BO users, the proximity sensor prevents 
> the User's cheek from "pressing" any buttons on the touch screen whilst the 
> phone is being held against the face. The issue of unwanted earpiece / 
> speaker switching as well as unwanted button presses by the User's cheek 
> were widely reported by both VO and non-VO Users when the iPhone 4 was first 
> introduced. Apple released several IOS 4.x updates meant to address the 
> issue and I was under the impression that the issue was fixed for most folks 
> after one or anoth
> er of those updates. I almost returned my iPhone 4 back when the issue was 
> making my calls almost unbearable as you mentioned, but one of the IOS 
> updates took care of the problem and it hasn't affected my phone since then 
> except for the following scenario. One of the other common causes of the 
> issue is the use of an improperly fitted case. Any case that protrudes too 
> far below the top edge of the iPhone4 can cause this issue. The first case I 
> purchased for my phone was a leather wallet case and the strip of leather 
> across the top of the screen would constantly cause the phone to switch 
> between speaker and earpiece because of the interference with the proximity 
> sensor. I was able to replicate the issue at will when the phone was in that 
> case. The other 2 cases I've used on my iPhone 4 -- The Speck Pixelskin and 
> the Mophie Juice Pack Plus -- both work fine as their top edges do not 
> interfere with the proximity sensor. One other thing I seem to recall was 
> that a number of folks
>  were able to take their iPhone 4 back to the Apple Store or wherever their 
> point-of-purchase was and get it replaced.
> 
> HTH,
> Bryan
> 
>>> On 02/01/2012, at 5:08 PM, michael weaver wrote:
>>> 
>>>> i am thinking of purchasing the i-phone 4 s sometime this year.
>>>> i think if i don't want to be penalised for upgrading, the earliest i 
>>>> can
>>>> upgrade is august this year i think.
>>>> is the 4 s better at dealing with calls while running voiceover?
>>>> i don't know if this only happens with voiceover users or if it at all
>>>> affects non voiceover users as well but the 4 is known for switching
>>>> between earpiece and hands free speaker.
>>>> apart from of course wearing a headset the only way of avoiding the
>>>> problem on the 4 is to temporarily switch off voiceover by pressing the
>>>> home button twice and then having to remember to do the same at the end 
>>>> of
>>>> a call which is a bit of a nusance.
>>>> has this problem been addressed on the 4 s?
>>>> i tried to just disable wifi before calls only that didn't appear to 
>>>> work
>>>> as a solution to the problem of me either speaking to someone or someone
>>>> talking to me and parts of the call breaking up because of this 
>>>> switching
>>>> between the earpiece and speaker when the phone isn't near your ear.
>>>> as far as i am aware this doesn't happen to a non voiceover user from my
>>>> experience of temporarily turning it off and someone who borrowed my 
>>>> phone
>>>> to speak to their mother about an important avon order for work that 
>>>> they
>>>> were in a hurry to put through because they didn't have access to the
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