Yes, sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities.  I forget the left tends 
to get jumpy when you start to talk about real economy issues.

Take Care
John Panarese
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On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:

> Excuse me, could we stick to apple discussions and maybe save the tired 
> right-wing rhetoric for the John Birch Society forum?
> 
> Thanks
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 11, 2012, at 3:21 PM, John Panarese <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>>    Agreed.  And what is more scary is how many people who have no idea how 
>> an economy actually runs and think that every company supplying some sort of 
>> goods are "cheating" the consumers in some way shape or form.  Many of them, 
>> however, also want to be paid the maximum for their own work, not 
>> considering who pays their salaries and how.  
>> 
>> Take Care
>> John Panarese
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>> 
>>> Amusing that they state: "companies should offer a free two-year warranty." 
>>> Do most Europeans actually believe its free of charge without even a 
>>> modicum of impact on the pricing of a product?  Its incredible that the 
>>> vary people who applaud this sort of thing whine about the disparity in 
>>> prices for identical products in their countries.  Of course since the US 
>>> President has been intentionally trashing this nations currency for over 
>>> three years, y'all may have a more favorable exchange rate, but the reality 
>>> is that all costs have a direct affect on a company's profit margin which 
>>> must be offset by increasing revenue.  The only method at a company's 
>>> disposal to augment revenue is to price their goods and services 
>>> accordingly.
>>> 
>>> To be fair, the pro-EU faction of Europeans don't have a monopoly on 
>>> believing politician's fairy tales of a free lunch.  Its always amusing to 
>>> watch supporters of our current President demand that these evil energy 
>>> producers be taxed for various offenses having to do with being an evil 
>>> corporation in general and the global warming hoax in particular. 
>>> Ironically, those vary people complain when their electric bills skyrocket 
>>> and they can't afford to fill their gas tanks, or purchase food (which 
>>> generally requires transportation).
>>> 
>>> To keep this topical, its probably fair to conclude that citizens of the 
>>> affected EU nations shouldn't be surprised to discover that this will hit 
>>> them directly in the pocket book, which would be identical to the affect of 
>>> raising taxes on Apple.  Corporations do not pay taxes you see -- they 
>>> simply collect them from their customers.
>>> 
>>> Best regards.
>>> Geoff
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolai Svendsen" 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: EU law forces Apple two-year warranty | Macworld
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, this is perfectly justifiable. Before just now, you only got one 
>>>> year of warranty if you included AppleCare, which truthfully isn't any 
>>>> better than what the insurance any other company can provide. In a lot of 
>>>> countries, you have an insurance which covers all damages to electronic 
>>>> equipment, like computers, televisions, microwaves and so-forth regardless 
>>>> of the warranty provided by the manufacturer. And obviously, Apple 
>>>> misleads customers by suggesting that we pay for AppleCare for the second 
>>>> and third year when the two-year law in Europe didn't cover it at the 
>>>> time, which actually should have been the case as the article says.
>>>> 
>>>> So, Apple deserves taking the heat for this one, though I'm kind of 
>>>> surprised their lawyers haven't acted on this to prevent the misleading 
>>>> claims. Since I'm into law, at least as a hobby, I've been rather upset 
>>>> when I've shown up with damaged equipment to find I wasn't covered, but my 
>>>> insurance company was perfectly able to replace the item if it was damaged 
>>>> beyond repair, at least if you include the coverage when signing 
>>>> insurance. Of course, I haven't had damaged items, but I like to test 
>>>> Apple since they've been rather troublesome, not just in this area but 
>>>> also when it comes to advertising.
>>>> 
>>>> At any rate, I'm pretty happy to see Apple refining AppleCare and warranty 
>>>> now.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Nicolai
>>>> On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Sarah Alawami <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not  so sure what to think of this. but here's the article. the 
>>>>> reader is available in this one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/1166194/eu_law_forces_apple_twoyear_warranty.html#lsrc.rss_products_ipod
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