Feel better? Now can we get back to Apple discussions? Thanks
On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:55 PM, John Panarese wrote: > Yes, sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities. I forget the left tends > to get jumpy when you start to talk about real economy issues. > > Take Care > John Panarese > [email protected] > > > > On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> Excuse me, could we stick to apple discussions and maybe save the tired >> right-wing rhetoric for the John Birch Society forum? >> >> Thanks >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 11, 2012, at 3:21 PM, John Panarese <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Agreed. And what is more scary is how many people who have no idea how >>> an economy actually runs and think that every company supplying some sort >>> of goods are "cheating" the consumers in some way shape or form. Many of >>> them, however, also want to be paid the maximum for their own work, not >>> considering who pays their salaries and how. >>> >>> Take Care >>> John Panarese >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 11, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> >>>> Amusing that they state: "companies should offer a free two-year >>>> warranty." Do most Europeans actually believe its free of charge without >>>> even a modicum of impact on the pricing of a product? Its incredible that >>>> the vary people who applaud this sort of thing whine about the disparity >>>> in prices for identical products in their countries. Of course since the >>>> US President has been intentionally trashing this nations currency for >>>> over three years, y'all may have a more favorable exchange rate, but the >>>> reality is that all costs have a direct affect on a company's profit >>>> margin which must be offset by increasing revenue. The only method at a >>>> company's disposal to augment revenue is to price their goods and services >>>> accordingly. >>>> >>>> To be fair, the pro-EU faction of Europeans don't have a monopoly on >>>> believing politician's fairy tales of a free lunch. Its always amusing to >>>> watch supporters of our current President demand that these evil energy >>>> producers be taxed for various offenses having to do with being an evil >>>> corporation in general and the global warming hoax in particular. >>>> Ironically, those vary people complain when their electric bills skyrocket >>>> and they can't afford to fill their gas tanks, or purchase food (which >>>> generally requires transportation). >>>> >>>> To keep this topical, its probably fair to conclude that citizens of the >>>> affected EU nations shouldn't be surprised to discover that this will hit >>>> them directly in the pocket book, which would be identical to the affect >>>> of raising taxes on Apple. Corporations do not pay taxes you see -- they >>>> simply collect them from their customers. >>>> >>>> Best regards. >>>> Geoff >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolai Svendsen" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:52 AM >>>> Subject: Re: EU law forces Apple two-year warranty | Macworld >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Actually, this is perfectly justifiable. Before just now, you only got >>>>> one year of warranty if you included AppleCare, which truthfully isn't >>>>> any better than what the insurance any other company can provide. In a >>>>> lot of countries, you have an insurance which covers all damages to >>>>> electronic equipment, like computers, televisions, microwaves and >>>>> so-forth regardless of the warranty provided by the manufacturer. And >>>>> obviously, Apple misleads customers by suggesting that we pay for >>>>> AppleCare for the second and third year when the two-year law in Europe >>>>> didn't cover it at the time, which actually should have been the case as >>>>> the article says. >>>>> >>>>> So, Apple deserves taking the heat for this one, though I'm kind of >>>>> surprised their lawyers haven't acted on this to prevent the misleading >>>>> claims. Since I'm into law, at least as a hobby, I've been rather upset >>>>> when I've shown up with damaged equipment to find I wasn't covered, but >>>>> my insurance company was perfectly able to replace the item if it was >>>>> damaged beyond repair, at least if you include the coverage when signing >>>>> insurance. Of course, I haven't had damaged items, but I like to test >>>>> Apple since they've been rather troublesome, not just in this area but >>>>> also when it comes to advertising. >>>>> >>>>> At any rate, I'm pretty happy to see Apple refining AppleCare and >>>>> warranty now. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Nicolai >>>>> On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Sarah Alawami <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm not so sure what to think of this. but here's the article. the >>>>>> reader is available in this one. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/1166194/eu_law_forces_apple_twoyear_warranty.html#lsrc.rss_products_ipod >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! 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