I was going to ask you the same question, actually, as your response was
not exactly called for.
To get back on subject, I apologize for highjacking Geoff's original
post. He was on topic. So, it's my fault for diverting it with my
editorializing. I ran a business for several years and have family and friends
who still do so in varying capacities, so this topic is a "hot one" for me
personally. However, as I said, I am sorry for derailing the initial point.
Take Care
John Panarese
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On Apr 11, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
> Feel better? Now can we get back to Apple discussions?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:55 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>
>> Yes, sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities. I forget the left tends
>> to get jumpy when you start to talk about real economy issues.
>>
>> Take Care
>> John Panarese
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>>
>>> Excuse me, could we stick to apple discussions and maybe save the tired
>>> right-wing rhetoric for the John Birch Society forum?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 11, 2012, at 3:21 PM, John Panarese <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agreed. And what is more scary is how many people who have no idea how
>>>> an economy actually runs and think that every company supplying some sort
>>>> of goods are "cheating" the consumers in some way shape or form. Many of
>>>> them, however, also want to be paid the maximum for their own work, not
>>>> considering who pays their salaries and how.
>>>>
>>>> Take Care
>>>> John Panarese
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 11, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Amusing that they state: "companies should offer a free two-year
>>>>> warranty." Do most Europeans actually believe its free of charge without
>>>>> even a modicum of impact on the pricing of a product? Its incredible
>>>>> that the vary people who applaud this sort of thing whine about the
>>>>> disparity in prices for identical products in their countries. Of course
>>>>> since the US President has been intentionally trashing this nations
>>>>> currency for over three years, y'all may have a more favorable exchange
>>>>> rate, but the reality is that all costs have a direct affect on a
>>>>> company's profit margin which must be offset by increasing revenue. The
>>>>> only method at a company's disposal to augment revenue is to price their
>>>>> goods and services accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> To be fair, the pro-EU faction of Europeans don't have a monopoly on
>>>>> believing politician's fairy tales of a free lunch. Its always amusing
>>>>> to watch supporters of our current President demand that these evil
>>>>> energy producers be taxed for various offenses having to do with being an
>>>>> evil corporation in general and the global warming hoax in particular.
>>>>> Ironically, those vary people complain when their electric bills
>>>>> skyrocket and they can't afford to fill their gas tanks, or purchase food
>>>>> (which generally requires transportation).
>>>>>
>>>>> To keep this topical, its probably fair to conclude that citizens of the
>>>>> affected EU nations shouldn't be surprised to discover that this will hit
>>>>> them directly in the pocket book, which would be identical to the affect
>>>>> of raising taxes on Apple. Corporations do not pay taxes you see -- they
>>>>> simply collect them from their customers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>> Geoff
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolai Svendsen"
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:52 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: EU law forces Apple two-year warranty | Macworld
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, this is perfectly justifiable. Before just now, you only got
>>>>>> one year of warranty if you included AppleCare, which truthfully isn't
>>>>>> any better than what the insurance any other company can provide. In a
>>>>>> lot of countries, you have an insurance which covers all damages to
>>>>>> electronic equipment, like computers, televisions, microwaves and
>>>>>> so-forth regardless of the warranty provided by the manufacturer. And
>>>>>> obviously, Apple misleads customers by suggesting that we pay for
>>>>>> AppleCare for the second and third year when the two-year law in Europe
>>>>>> didn't cover it at the time, which actually should have been the case as
>>>>>> the article says.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, Apple deserves taking the heat for this one, though I'm kind of
>>>>>> surprised their lawyers haven't acted on this to prevent the misleading
>>>>>> claims. Since I'm into law, at least as a hobby, I've been rather upset
>>>>>> when I've shown up with damaged equipment to find I wasn't covered, but
>>>>>> my insurance company was perfectly able to replace the item if it was
>>>>>> damaged beyond repair, at least if you include the coverage when signing
>>>>>> insurance. Of course, I haven't had damaged items, but I like to test
>>>>>> Apple since they've been rather troublesome, not just in this area but
>>>>>> also when it comes to advertising.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At any rate, I'm pretty happy to see Apple refining AppleCare and
>>>>>> warranty now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Nicolai
>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Sarah Alawami <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not so sure what to think of this. but here's the article. the
>>>>>>> reader is available in this one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/1166194/eu_law_forces_apple_twoyear_warranty.html#lsrc.rss_products_ipod
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