i know its frustrating when people just don't want to do the extra work to help us out On 03/07/2012, at 10:39 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
> > On Jun 29, 2012, at 6:28 PM, krystal watson wrote: > >> i am also surprized that they don't want to fix it but the tools they use >> can't support it at least that is what dave said the app develiper > If this is what the developer said, and if the developer is using apple tools > (as most folks are when developing for the mac) then this guy is full of it. > Apple does provide the tools for making things accessible, it's built right > into their development tools. > A lot of developers don't use the apple provided resources, then complain > they can't do this or that, just because they don't know how to do it. > The apple tools make it rather easy to add accessibility, but it can also be > done without those tools, it's just generally additional work most developers > aren't interesting in doing, or (worst yet) don't know how to do themselves. > That is where the problem lies. > It's not a matter of can't be done, (look at firefox for a group that is > doing that), but a matter of won't be done, because developers don't want to > spend the time adding the resources they ignored or didn't have because of > not using apple provided resources. > The firefox guys are an excellent example of what can be done, since they > also at first thought accessibility wasn't possible, because they used all > custom elements (for some reason I'm still not clear on btw) and now they're > making the effort to add the accessibility parts of the code that is missing, > and as some on this list have discovered, > is coming quite nicely for a stand-alone accessibility effort. > So, it can be done, it is being done, and those that say otherwise are just > lazy, ignorant, (meaning lacking of knowledge, not the other definition) or > both. > It's a real shame apple went through the effort of making sure everyone had > the tools to make stuff accessible, and so few developers actually use what > they're given. > Make no mistake, most folks who make programs will do what's required if > they're made aware of the need, but there's a few that just downright refuse > to make the effort, and it's those that make me want to scream. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > [email protected] > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> > or at the public Mail Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and > worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to [email protected] You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
