I couldn't see the results of the scan.  I suspect that I didn't quite 
understand what I needed to do to get that to happen.  Can you both scan and 
recognize with abby?  or do I need both programs for this?  I thought I had to 
scan with vu scan and then use abby to recognize the scan.  It's been a while 
since I tried.  I finally gave up and went back to k1000 since I have school to 
deal with and reams of texts to muddle through.
thanks heaps,
Cait

On 2013-03-13, at 7:05 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> wrote:

> Those two programs are all mac.  What issues did you have?
> 
> You're essentially spending 2K on a webcam that talks to (in my view anyway) 
> only very average software.  Interestingly, the mac version isn't even a 
> genuine mac program it runs under WINE which needs X11.
> On 13 Mar 2013, at 11:01, cait furness <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm, ok.  I am used to kurzweil.  I had a go with abby and vu scan and 
>> couldn't get them to work and would just like an all mac solution.  Perhaps 
>> I'll give abby and vu scan another shot or just stick with running a virtual 
>> machine then.
>> Thanks for the tips.
>> Cait
>> 
>> On 2013-03-13, at 6:53 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there,
>>> 
>>> At over 2000 euro? not a chance.  I only use it because the university for 
>>> which I work had it lying around and I borrowed it until a student comes in 
>>> and gets it back.  I would honestly say to spend a couple of hundred of 
>>> whatever currency you operate in, and buy a decent scanner, Vuscan and ABYY 
>>> FineReader Express.  You'll get the same results for a fraction of the cost.
>>> 
>>> Dónal
>>> On 13 Mar 2013, at 10:49, cait furness <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Besides this weirdness, would you say that i pal is worth the purchase?
>>>> Curiously,
>>>> Caitlyn, who is thinking of getting it later this year
>>>> 
>>>> On 2013-03-12, at 7:57 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oops my apologies I thought I had followed up with the list on this one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did some work with the developers, in the form of feedback and beta 
>>>>> testing on ML last year.  They were actually unaware it wouldn't work 
>>>>> till I pointed it out and, I must say, reacted reasonably promptly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With your permission I will let them know of the flicker issue.  Can you 
>>>>> give more details on what you had to change?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Again my apologies I thought I had sent a mail to this effect.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best and glad it's working,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dónal
>>>>> On 12 Mar 2013, at 23:47, David Griffith <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am pleased to say that after upgrade to Mountain Lion the EyePal 
>>>>>> scanning software continues to function.
>>>>>> I rmember that there was some concern that this would not be the case 
>>>>>> under Mountain Lion. 
>>>>>> There is a little setting up that needs to be done.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I did not  do a clean install of Mountain Lion which I suspect may have 
>>>>>> helped me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Basically I went to the X11 utility in the Utilities folder. It did not 
>>>>>> appear to run but after I selected open from the context menu I got a 
>>>>>> message  inviting me to learn about awn open source version of X11 as 
>>>>>> Apple were no longer developing it.
>>>>>> I followed the link and downloaded the open source version of X11.
>>>>>> After running the install package I Had to restart my  Mac.
>>>>>> When I then tried EyePal   it opened with the new version of X11.
>>>>>> Curiously the camera was now misbehaving and flickering. I went into 
>>>>>> settings and changed the flicker rate from US to Europe. This seems to 
>>>>>> have solved the problem for me thought it is odd that I did not have to 
>>>>>> do this under Lion.
>>>>>> It is early days but the EyePal is definitely  working and the initial 
>>>>>> impression is that the app and scanner is now more responsive than under 
>>>>>> Lion.
>>>>>> A bit of good news for once.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David Griffith       
>>>>>> David Griffith
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