iLocier, as it's called, requires the use of a smart dongle.  You create an 
account and then buy a dongle.  More and more applications are moving towards 
this for their trials as it's a far more powerful way for them to enforce 
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On 17 Jul 2013, at 21:58, Dónal Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Dan,
> 
> Can you explain the iLock system?
> 
> thank you,
> 
> Dónal
> On 17 Jul 2013, at 21:54, Dan Eickmeier <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> It'd be great  if Logic pro X is accessible to the point where it'll be very 
>> useful.  Was considering getting protools, but with Logic being a lot 
>> cheeper, and plus, not require the iLock system for registration, which 
>> protools does, it'll be  good to install on multiple macs as well.  
>> On 2013-07-17, at 4:25 PM, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Chris
>>> 
>>> Yes, you're correct, that's the exact keyboard I have.  So great to hear 
>>> that it is compatible.  If that's the case I will go and look to see what 
>>> the price of ProTools is and, if it's something we can afford I'll try and 
>>> obtain it assuming, of course, you can buy it on line and download it.  
>>> What's the difference between Protools and Protools HD?  I'd imagine that I 
>>> would only require ProTools unless it's going to make a huge difference.
>>> 
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>>> On 17 Jul 2013, at 21:14, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Gordon,
>>>> 
>>>> You have described a MIDI controller keyboard, which you probably connect 
>>>> via USB.  This will work with all music software on Mac OS X.  Pro Tools 
>>>> used to insist on Pro Tools compliant hardware, but even Pro Tools 9 
>>>> onwards supports M Audio gear.
>>>> 
>>>> Your keyboard will work with Logic no problem.  Most MIDI controller 
>>>> keyboard / mother keyboards tend not to have any sound hardware built in, 
>>>> as it is not required.  However, you can use MIDI enabled synths and 
>>>> workstations etc to perform the same task, but obviously these tend to 
>>>> cost more.
>>>> Overall, Garage Band is pretty accessible, the only major hurdle is that 
>>>> it is not possible to edit MIDI events.
>>>> 
>>>> Seems like a big number of us have requested improved support in this area 
>>>> from Apple, and I imagine a number of users have probably emailed Apple 
>>>> regarding Logic X.  So here's hoping, as I really miss using this baby.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 17 Jul 2013, at 21:01, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Chris
>>>>> 
>>>>> We may do that as well.  But Lynne decided to take the plunge, and if 
>>>>> this turns out to be a damp squibb, then it's we who will have paid the 
>>>>> price I guess.  ProTools is about 4 times the price, and the other aspect 
>>>>> that made us decide to try it was because of the keyboard which I have.  
>>>>> It's a 4 octave M-Audio keyboard which has been kind of butchered by the 
>>>>> manufacturers so that all the synthesiser and other internal stuff is 
>>>>> missing.  It's designed to work only with GarageBand but I'm hoping it 
>>>>> will work with Logic as well.  I take your point though about importing 
>>>>> projects.  I'm just hoping that the rest of it is accessible, as in the 
>>>>> multitrack editors and mixers etc..  If not, then we'll have to think 
>>>>> again.  I really cannot afford to pay hundreds for the software and twice 
>>>>> as much again for the keyboard to make ProTools work properly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 Jul 2013, at 20:55, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gordon,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have not purchased Logic X yet, as already have Logic 9 Studio which I 
>>>>>> used to use whilst I could see.  Since Logic 8, you have always been 
>>>>>> able to import Garage Band projects, so nothing new here.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Most of the library which you download for Logic X, used to come on 
>>>>>> various DVDs  with logic 9 Studio.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Were you not tempted to purchase Pro Tools? Pro Tools is much more 
>>>>>> accessible on the Mac than Logic.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think Logic is fantastic value for money, so do hope Voiceover support 
>>>>>> is improved.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 17 Jul 2013, at 20:18, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, I've only just started playing and the downloading of the 
>>>>>>> additional plug-ins and sample instruments is huge, just under 50GB in 
>>>>>>> total.  So far, I can only say that the in initial projects window is 
>>>>>>> much more accessible than the previous version of Logic Pro that I 
>>>>>>> tried on my brother-in-law's Mac about a year ago.  All I got that time 
>>>>>>> was Unknown, unknown, from VoiceOver.  Now, I am getting the correct 
>>>>>>> project status read as I scroll through the demos.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Too soon to get over-excited but one thing I can tell you.  It supports 
>>>>>>> GarageBand projects and enhances them according to the documentation.  
>>>>>>> So if you've used GB to create a project, you can import it into Logic 
>>>>>>> Pro X and do enhanced work.  It comes with over a thousand samples, 
>>>>>>> loops and virtual instruments.  It is this aspect which excites me 
>>>>>>> because if indeed it is fully GarargeBand compatible, then my M-Audio 
>>>>>>> keyboard should work.  I'm hoping to be able to create some audio 
>>>>>>> content for our radio projects, amongst other things.  I've been 
>>>>>>> talking to a friend of mine today who runs a company which produces 
>>>>>>> audio stuff for use on commercial radio and TV.  If you are a Smooth 
>>>>>>> Radio listener here in the UK, you'll have heard Alex's work and 
>>>>>>> actually I believe he's also done some stuff for US radio organisations 
>>>>>>> as well.  But anyway I'm getting off the point.  The point here is that 
>>>>>>> Alex has told me that he's more than interested to see how this goes 
>>>>>>> with regards access
>> i
>>> b
>>>> i
>>>>> l
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> y.  It could be of use to him as well if I can help him with some of 
>>>>>>> his work load.  He uses ProTools primarily, with a 24-bit digital mixer 
>>>>>>> console purchased from the BBC when they decommissioned it.  That is 
>>>>>>> the core of his studio setup.  But he uses a lot of hardware 
>>>>>>> music-creation stuff which I can only dream about!  He is more than 
>>>>>>> willing to help me though if this works.  That's why Lynne decided to 
>>>>>>> take the plunge and test it.  If it works, great, so much the better 
>>>>>>> for us all.  If it does, I will produce an audio demo for the Sparkle 
>>>>>>> Radio "Techno Chat" series which is broadcast from here.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>> 
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